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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:32 PM   #3661
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The second video has the MF 67, but it is impossible for me to tell where.


It's quite surprising in the first video how the guy gets in through a hatch that isn't really all that secured.
The second video has the MF67 and at the beginning of the video point the map on Pont de Levallois - Bécon.
Line 3?
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:34 PM   #3662
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Now it works
Not in France.
The video is blocked because of copyright.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:35 PM   #3663
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Not in France.
The video is blocked because of copyright.
ah...
excuse me!
if it's necessary i will remove the link immediately.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 05:19 PM   #3664
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The first one (which I've watched before) is of the MP 59. I think these are the Line 11 trains because I don't think any of the Line 4 tunnels look like that.

The second video has the MF 67, but it is impossible for me to tell where.


It's quite surprising in the first video how the guy gets in through a hatch that isn't really all that secured.
Right; the affected train is the 3219... in service on line

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 05:27 PM   #3665
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The first one (which I've watched before) is of the MP 59. I think these are the Line 11 trains because I don't think any of the Line 4 tunnels look like that.

The second video has the MF 67, but it is impossible for me to tell where.


It's quite surprising in the first video how the guy gets in through a hatch that isn't really all that secured.
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The first one, like HARTride mention, is the garage end of line 11 after Porte des Lilas. The entrance the guy used in the video is actually not a "subway" access. It is not even located near the subway tunnel. I recognized it, it's located at the Bassin de l'Arsenel, close to Bastille. See here on google street view the hatch : http://goo.gl/maps/lKsww.

Second video doesn't work.
So the first video is a fake, at least for the access...
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 06:00 PM   #3666
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The first one (which I've watched before) is of the MP 59. I think these are the Line 11 trains because I don't think any of the Line 4 tunnels look like that.

The second video has the MF 67, but it is impossible for me to tell where.


It's quite surprising in the first video how the guy gets in through a hatch that isn't really all that secured.
The "MF67 part" of the second video is on line ...
The first affected train is the G047 S9063.
The station with the train graffited is Falguiere...
The second affected train is the 089 S9122.
So now the question is: which is the garage?



The MF77 is the 103 (B32206) so line

There ARE another 2 MF67 at the beginning, the 103 and the 54 so line

At the beginning,during the activity on the MF67 (the number 54 i believe) when he is descovered, he run very fast toward the station but in the station there is an MF77,the 117; so line and line are linked (i amnot able to find any link between these 2 lines) or the video is a fake...
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 07:20 PM   #3667
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I can't see the second video from France, but you're right, there's not tunnel between line 3 and 8.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:26 PM   #3668
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New line map
Mairie de Montrouge is on the map

Transfer with the non-RER suburban network are visible




Porte d’Orléans
They added other new screens on the corridors.
Next bus departures

Information about the traffic on the network.
Great photos as always!
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 12:31 AM   #3669
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Old January 24th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #3670
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Old January 24th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #3671
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Wow, amazing!
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Old January 25th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #3672
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It is not so impressive, the distance between Cluny la Sorbonne and Odeon is one of the lowest of the network, if not the lowest. 150m between the two stations.
Infact Cluny la Sorbonne has been closed between 1939 and 1988, it only reopened to provide an interchange between the line 10 and the RER B and the northbound entrance for Saint-Michel N-D RER B station.

If you look closely the video, he get off at the first car at Clunny and get on on the last car at Odéon.
Any fit people could do it, even more if they are more lucky (red traffic light for cars on Boulevard Saint-Michel).
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Old January 25th, 2013, 12:36 AM   #3673
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I know all that, but I'm still amazed though!

BTW, you have to add to the 150m distance, the stairs, the corridors etc.
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Old January 25th, 2013, 12:38 AM   #3674
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Lol, that's great!
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Old January 25th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #3675
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I was about to post that video. I had already seen it. Anyway, once I made something like that. Zaragoza tram is supossed to have priority on traffic lights, but sometimes it fails to sincronize, and I almost beat the tram between two stops... without running.
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Old January 25th, 2013, 04:06 PM   #3676
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This video has got me thinking. Always a dangerous thing...

I am more familiar with the London Underground where the two nearest stations are Leicester Square and Covent Garden, but they are 260 metres apart. A few other stations are almost as close together (Charing Cross and Embankment; Cannon Street with both Mansion House and Monument) but on the whole they are much further apart.

These two Paris metro stations are incredibly close together and I can't help noticing that many other metro stations in the centre are very close. Is this because Paris is more densely built up or is there another reason? After all, it must take barely a minute to walk between these stations it would seem.

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Old January 25th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #3677
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Paris' metro serves just the inner area (the equivalent of about zones 1-3 of London). The Underground has always had to deal with long journeys and so close-together stations in the centre wasn't going to work. Even with that principle at play there still were a few closures of central stations due to being too close to others (eg City Road and the case par excellence of Down Street/Dover Street becoming Green Park - escalators from one station meant a station entrance building about 50m from the other one, so they closed the other station).

Wasn't there an ordinance to get every part of the city of Paris within 500m of a Metro station entrance? That helps with getting stations all over the place.

I also notice that the front end of the train did a train-length more. In London there is not much more than a train length between the west end of S Ealing and the east end of Northfields. However the entrances are via steps at the east end of S Ealing and the west end of Northfields, making the distance about 3.5 train lengths as the crow flies - nearly twice the distance the train travels between the two (also no easy route to run between the two so not going to happen). On the DLR, West India Quay to Canary Wharf is less than a train length between stations, but suffers the problem for these runs in having to go down to ground level, around a dock and then back up: by foot (only - no lifts) it is probably 10 times as far to travel between the platforms as by train.

There are videos similar to the Paris one for two stations in Glasgow, but the are bicycles (and a steep hill) involved.

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Old January 25th, 2013, 04:44 PM   #3678
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Paris' metro serves just the inner area (the equivalent of about zones 1-3 of London). The Underground has always had to deal with long journeys and so close-together stations in the centre wasn't going to work. Even with that principle at play there still were a few closures of central stations due to being too close to others (eg City Road and the case par excellence of Down Street/Dover Street becoming Green Park - escalators from one station meant a station entrance building about 50m from the other one, so they closed the other station).

Wasn't there an ordinance to get every part of the city of Paris within 500m of a Metro station entrance? That helps with getting stations all over the place.
Yes I'm aware of the nature of the coverage of the Paris metro but I suspect if the edict that everywhere in Paris should be within 500m of a metro station entrance is true than that may be closer to the mark.

FTR, I'd say one or two of those closed stations in central London could do with reopening, though I acknowledge that would be very expensive. Angel is a heavily-used station and I reckon City Road could have removed some of that pressure, not least because of the distance between Angel and Old Street. York Road apparently has the best business case for reopenings however... OK maybe if Crossrail 2 ends up going to Angel, that would remove some of the pressure.

On a wider note, I do think there is overall better coverage in central Paris than in central London as it isn't just greater station distance in London but a less dense network over all. It would be nice if such an edict had existed there...
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Old January 25th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #3679
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These two Paris metro stations are incredibly close together and I can't help noticing that many other metro stations in the centre are very close. Is this because Paris is more densely built up or is there another reason? After all, it must take barely a minute to walk between these stations it would seem.
There are definitely quite a few stations that are very close to each other. One Lines 8 & 9, Strassbourg-St. Denis is barely 100 meters away from St. Martin. After WWII, St Martin was permanently closed due to its close distance to the other stations. Cluny, as Minato mentioned, was also closed after WWII for the same reason. However, Cluny reopened to provide connection to the RER.

One can travel between Cluny, Line 10, to St. Michel-Notre Dame to connect to the RER B and C, and then to St. Michel station for Line 4 via the underground halls.
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Old January 25th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #3680
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walking from St-Lazare to Opéra via the underground tunnels is quite a nice walk as well.
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