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Old April 6th, 2013, 01:19 AM   #3881
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Porte de la Chapelle.
New entrances under in construction.
A new ticket hall is being constructed at the southside of the station, it is be accessible for people in wheelchair.




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Old April 6th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #3882
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This wheelchair access will be useless as long as no other line 12 station or a connected line does not have this kind of access.

As far as I know, line 14 is the only one to be a weelchair accessible line.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 05:53 PM   #3883
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Front Populaire is the only other Line 12 station with elevators I think.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 07:41 PM   #3884
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This wheelchair access will be useless as long as no other line 12 station or a connected line does not have this kind of access.

As far as I know, line 14 is the only one to be a weelchair accessible line.
Gotta start somewhere.

Chicken - egg, etc.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 01:42 AM   #3885
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They are doing the same in Porte d’Orléans, new entrances and a new ticket hall is under in construction at the north side of the station.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #3886
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Several articulations of MP89 CC




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Old April 8th, 2013, 01:02 AM   #3887
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Did you take these photos? Pretty neat!
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Old April 8th, 2013, 01:30 AM   #3888
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Yes, I took those photos.
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Awesome! Again, great photos!

And I be you're happy that you can take just a few steps to the Metro!
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Old April 8th, 2013, 02:15 AM   #3890
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A bit more, I live at 1km (0.62 mi) of the Mairie de Montrouge metro station.
A second station will open in Montrouge just next to my home in 2019/2020 but I don't think I would live still here at this time.

Anyway in morning rush hour, it is great because I don't have to be bus stuck in traffic jam.
The nice and quiet Republique street (low or medium traffic most of time) in Montrouge is the hell at 8AM-9AM.

Line 128 is my bus, I get off at Verdier Republique and I walk for 170m (0.1 mi) to the metro station.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:55 AM   #3891
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seqGxs3H2Ns


this video starts before Maries de Lilas and ends into the terminus after chatele.
Is there the possibility to remain onboard the train?
Or is the author a metro driver?
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That's the "flythrough" video that I was referring to earlier.

There are such videos for Lines 2, 4, and 6.

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Flythrough video.

For the Line 4 video, we now at least have an idea of the entire line. There's no telling now when...or even IF...46authurdu will be doing his filming on Line 4 this year (if at all). As some of us here know, he has temporarily halted his Metro filming project.

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Old April 9th, 2013, 09:49 AM   #3893
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That's the "flythrough" video that I was referring to earlier.

There are such videos for Lines 2, 4, and 6.
yes of course, thanks a lot.
i like these video, particularly the video about line 11, because ends in the terminus...
My question is: is there the possibility that a passenger (like me) can stay onboard until the train enter in the terminus and came back or, in your opinion, is this video created by the driver?
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excuse for my poor english...


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yhea that's great thanks!
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I doubt it was a driver.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 12:58 AM   #3895
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So I am hearing on Symbioz that the STIF may consider scrapping the MP 89CC before they even reach mid-life. Why on earth would they do that? Couldn't the trains be converted to automation by removing the driver cabins? Or would they think it may be too costly?
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So I am hearing on Symbioz that the STIF may consider scrapping the MP 89CC before they even reach mid-life. Why on earth would they do that? Couldn't the trains be converted to automation by removing the driver cabins? Or would they think it may be too costly?
couldn't the trains be transferred to other line? or sell?
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It would be extremely difficult since the other lines are only capable to handle 5-car trains. It would be too expensive to extend stations, especially along Line 6. I noted earlier about Line 13 and if it were ever to be automated, most stations along that line can only handle 5-car trains as well. Minato pointed out that it would likely be too costly to extend them.

The talk right now is to possibly replace the MP 89CC on Line 4 with the MP NG upon automation. The trains would likely be in 6 car formations.

Speaking of the MP NG, there are signals that point to an official name of MP 14, but this is not confirmed 100% yet.
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It would be extremely difficult since the other lines are only capable to handle 5-car trains. It would be too expensive to extend stations, especially along Line 6. I noted earlier about Line 13 and if it were ever to be automated, most stations along that line can only handle 5-car trains as well. Minato pointed out that it would likely be too costly to extend them.

The talk right now is to possibly replace the MP 89CC on Line 4 with the MP NG upon automation. The trains would likely be in 6 car formations.

Speaking of the MP NG, there are signals that point to an official name of MP 14, but this is not confirmed 100% yet.
is it impossible to reduce to 5 cars every MP89 from line 4? is this possibility definitely abandoned?
i have read about this and other option...
FOR Line 6
1°) MP89CA of line 14 reduced to 5 cars and transformed in CC (plus other 11 MP05 reduced to 5 cars and with conductor),
2°) MP89CC from line 4 reduced to 5 cars
all these option after the automation of line 4 (and so until 2020...)


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1. Introduction
Dans le cadre de l’évolution du réseau de métro pneu en Ile de France, les scénarii
suivants ont été envisagés et définis en concertation entre le STIF etla RATP :
 Scénario 1 : Automatisation intégrale de la ligne 4 du métro. Dans ce cas, 42
MP89CC (de la ligne 1)seraient exploités en 5 voituressurla ligne 6 aprèsleur
passage surla ligne 4 (le transfert de cesrames de la L1 à la L4 est en cours).
 Scénario 2 : Pas d’automatisation de la ligne 4 du métro. Dans ce cas, 2a
MP89CA (de la ligne 14)seraient exploités en CC et en 5 voituressurla ligne 6.
Par ailleurs, 11 MP05 (conduite automatique)seraient aussi utiliséssurla ligne
6 en 5 voitures et en conduite avec conducteur.
L’objet de ce chapitre est de faire ressortir et d’analyser les impacts engendrés par la
mise en œuvre de cesscénarii.
2. Présentation des scenarii
Les 2 scénarii susmentionnés sont représentés graphiquement sur les pages suivantes
en terme de transfert et d’acquisition dematérielroulant.
Lesschémas ci‐contre indiquentla répartition de type dematériel parligne.
http://www.stif.info/IMG/pdf/Deliber...ulant_pneu.pdf
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Yes, it is possible to shorten the cars. But I'm not sure what the RATP and STIF will ultimately decide.

I think the most likely course for the MP 05 from Line 14 is to beef up capacity on Line 1. Especially if the extension in either direction is carried out.

Though I can see the MP 89CC running in 5 car formations on Line 6, I think it is unlikely. Line 11 is even more unlikely due to no direct connection from any of the rubber-tyred lines. Then there remains the possibility of Line 11 being steel-wheeled.

Minato, what is your opinion on this matter?
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