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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:21 PM   #381
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Anyway, the worst car to me remains the MF77 of lines 7, 8 and 13. They also have only three doors per cars but cars aren't connected to one another. Furthermore, the walls are inclined, probably to make them looks cooler, but this reduces significantly space for nothing.
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A great part of the characteristics of MF 77 results from suggestions received from the users. This in particular led to the creation of the "corner-living room" in the end of the car. We can also note the particular comfort of the blue foam seats (those are however much less robust than seats with the rigid framework). And for the first time in the Parisian subway, the cars have no more than three large doors per face, instead of 4 smaller usual, the goal is to avoid the "tunnel feeling" of people in front of the doors on the platform. That also decreases the seating capacity, but allows a place much more important for the legs.

The MF 77 were the first trains of the RATP laid out a bent aspect. This aspect allows in fact to gain a few centimetres out of sitted gauge with height shoulders of the users and thus to offer an improved interior comfort. The cars, equipped with 3 doors, let appear of broad openings of 1,575 meters allowing the simultaneous passage of two people, thus facilitate the passengers exchanges. Large windows of 1,97 meters and the walls glazed in end of the train offer a good visual continuity between the cars and increase the space feeling.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 01:08 PM   #382
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Because the platform of this station are longer than the train.
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Yeah, as Minato Ku said, sometimes platforms are longer than trains, and it is to avoid people to wait in an area where the trains won't stop. This isn't strictly altruistic as these people waste a lot of time in requiring trains to stop a longer time on station since it has to wait for these people to walk to the train.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 01:25 PM   #383
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[...] This in particular led to the creation of the "corner-living room" in the end of the car. [...]
Yeah, that "corner-living room" which is also better known as the "tramp pissing corner". That feature is probably the major thing explaining why spaces are so wasted in those trains. This area is always dirty and no one wants to go there. Furthermore, it is badly configured, where we could put 8 seats there are only 6, and they are so isolated that well, they are dirty and smelly.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 02:42 PM   #384
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The MF 2000 won the "2007 Design of the Year award" in the Railway Interiors Expo 2007 in Cologne Germany

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Old November 15th, 2007, 03:30 PM   #385
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Yeah, that "corner-living room" which is also better known as the "tramp pissing corner". That feature is probably the major thing explaining why spaces are so wasted in those trains. This area is always dirty and no one wants to go there. Furthermore, it is badly configured, where we could put 8 seats there are only 6, and they are so isolated that well, they are dirty and smelly.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 04:53 PM   #386
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #387
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Good pictures! i love those curved stations.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 06:39 PM   #388
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It is a mix between RER, suburban train and subway.
This curved station is in the RER C.


I like the Quai de la Rapee station style.

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Old November 18th, 2007, 03:26 PM   #389
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In August I went to Paris for the second time in my life, and I went to the underground for the first time, It´s the best underground that I have ever seen with much difference.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 11:14 PM   #390
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i love ligne 14
best ever
clean , fast , automatique
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Old November 20th, 2007, 10:54 AM   #391
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And stinky, much more than the ''smelly MF77''...
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Only Madeleine station is really stinky on line 14. The rest of the line is pretty much OK to me.
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honestly, i havent smell anything stinky in the metro station for a long time.....am i getting way too used to it or just u guys r too critical?
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Old November 20th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #394
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Old November 20th, 2007, 01:23 PM   #395
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Only Madeleine station is really stinky on line 14. The rest of the line is pretty much OK to me.
It is due at underground water near the Opera it is the same in the RER A and in Opera station.
There is the underground lake under the Opera.
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honestly, i havent smell anything stinky in the metro station for a long time.....am i getting way too used to it or just u guys r too critical?
More informations concerning the stinky stations of Pyramides and Madeleine:
http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/article195.html

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Old November 21st, 2007, 01:04 AM   #397
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I heard them, quite often in Montparnasse and Chatelet stations

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Sounds like Peruvian music. I think it is in fact.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 10:57 PM   #399
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It is.

jewish melody played by musician from Lviv (Ukraine).


You said that Parisian are always grumpy
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Old November 26th, 2007, 01:47 AM   #400
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Picture of the strike by Metropole

Note that the line have a train every 5 minute, it is over 10 minute for the other line (In some line, it a train per hour !!!)

Gare de Lyon




Chateau de Vincenne It is first station of this line no problem.



Nation the depart of the train in the first station of this line


Saint Lazare


Chatelet The entrance of the platform


Like in the average rush hour, but the platform are more crowded


Saint Germain des Pres It is station without other lines in average day it is never crowded


Saint Lazare not so different than the average rush hour.


The strike is over.
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