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Old September 26th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #4221
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I don't know about the line 11 (75m, I believe).
For the line 4, there are two curve radius of 75m, one between Saint-Germain des Pres and Saint-Sulpice and the second between Saint Placide and Montparnasse.
It is not the tightest of the network which are on line 1 (Bastille, 38m curve radius).
The line 12 has also very tight curve with 48m near Notre Dame de Lorette.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 04:33 AM   #4222
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Victor Hugo.
They are repainting the entrance.
I think that they paint in brown for rustproof covering and then they paint in green over it.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 04:52 AM   #4223
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Old September 28th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #4224
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It is weird to see two colors.
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Old September 28th, 2013, 06:36 PM   #4225
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Line 15 South third post
Part 1, part 2
This time, the section between Bagneux and Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy.

Map and depth of this section



Bagneux M4
The name is provisional to not confuse with the Bagneux station of the RER B, M4 stands for metro line 4.
The station is located 39m underground and it will provide a connection with the metro line 4.


Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 station
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15 station
Gare de Correspondance = Line 4 station
Cheminement de correspondance et d’accès = Transfer and access corridors


Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms


Bâtiment d’accès metro ligne 4 = Entrance building of metro line 4
Bâtiment d’accès metro Grand Paris = Entrance building of metro line 15
Zac Victor Hugo = Redevelopment area


Arcueil - Cachan
The station is 25m under the ground, it provides a transfer with the RER B.


Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 station
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15 station
Gare de Correspondance = RER B station
Cheminement de correspondance et d’accès = Transfer and access corridors


Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms


Correspondance GPE/RER B = Transfer between line 15/RER B
Quais RER B = RER B platforms
Place de la Gare = Station plaza
Poste de redressement = Traction and distribution sub-station
Mezzanine = Mezzanine
Quais GPE = Line 15 platforms


Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy
The platforms will be 52m below the ground, it will make Villejuif Institut Gustave Roussy the deepest station of the line 15 and the deepest of the metro network.
The station will provide an interchange between the lines 14 and 15.


Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 platforms
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the station
Gare de Correspondance = Line 14 platforms
Cheminement de correspondance et d’accès = Transfer and access corridors


Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms
Note that "ligne bleu" is the line 14 and "ligne rouge" is line 15.

You wanted a 3d view of the deepest station, this is what you've got.


To be continued.
Next time, the section between Villejuif Louis Aragon and Les Ardoines
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Old September 28th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #4226
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Old September 29th, 2013, 03:28 AM   #4227
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Tryky incredible.. 7 floors down. I hope the escalators are fast.
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Old September 29th, 2013, 01:19 PM   #4228
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Old September 29th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #4229
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ErebosSan always makes awesome videos!

It's so neat seeing these old trains roll through a new station! Makes Bobigny look like a total dump though.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 11:30 AM   #4230
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ErebosSan always makes awesome videos!

It's so neat seeing these old trains roll through a new station! Makes Bobigny look like a total dump though.
Very good video;

MF67 stock will remain on L12 for quite some time...
and i agree to you; it's a very particular sensation seeing these glorious trains on a new, light and modern station...
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Sure is. It's a shame though that still, no replacement has been announced for stock of M3, M10, M12. Maybe in five years, lol.
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Sure is. It's a shame though that still, no replacement has been announced for stock of M3, M10, M12. Maybe in five years, lol.
The MF15 will be announced next year.


According to Symbioz, the MF01 097 will enter in service on October 21st in the line 9.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:33 PM   #4233
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More info, source please!?

The "15" rumors as far as I know, have been around for years, along with the "09" proposal that fizzed out, replaced by the official MP 14.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #4234
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I hope that the MF15 will take less time than the MF01.
There been almost 10 years between the first rendering and the first commercial service of the MF01 002.

Anyway I don't believe that any MF15 will have its first commercial service before 2020.
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More info, source please!?

The "15" rumors as far as I know, have been around for years, along with the "09" proposal that fizzed out, replaced by the official MP 14.
Old STIF documents mention "MF15".

The "MP14" is known since 2012, but the document which mention the name wasn't found until early 2013.

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Anyway I don't believe that any MF15 will have its first commercial service before 2020.
The MP14 will enter in service in 2018 (RATP source), 4 years after the command. If it's as the MP14, the MF15 will enter in service in 2019.

The European Request For Proposal (RFP) for the MP14 lasts for several months (source in MP, if you want)
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Interesting.

Yet the fate of the MP 89 remains unknown. I really think they will end up going to Line 11. It's the only possible track I see since the MP 59's will be retired in 2019 and then if the extension to Noisy is built, the line automated by 2025.
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The MP14 will enter in service in 2018 (RATP source), 4 years after the command. If it's as the MP14, the MF15 will enter in service in 2019.

The European Request For Proposal (RFP) for the MP14 lasts for several months (source in MP, if you want)
Only 4 years, I understand it was fast for the MP05 and MI09 because those trains are based on older models but this is quite short for an all new model like the MP14 and MF15 (I hope that the MP14 and MF15 are not only an upgrade version of older model).

The first commercial ride of the MP 89 was in 1997, the first commercial ride of the MF 01 was in 2008.
For those models it was more like 7-8 years than 4.
I hope that they will be faster.
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Tryky incredible.. 7 floors down. I hope the escalators are fast.
That's nothing extraordinary. We here in Moscow have dozens of stations much deeper than that.
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Only 4 years, I understand it was fast for the MP05 and MI09 because those trains are based on older models but this is quite short for an all new model like the MP14 and MF15 (I hope that the MP14 and MF15 are not only an upgrade version of older model).

The first commercial ride of the MP 89 was in 1997, the first commercial ride of the MF 01 was in 2008.
For those models it was more like 7-8 years than 4.
I hope that they will be faster.
In a train development, the longest stage is to conceive the onboard computing. The MP05 development was long for an upgrade model, because he has an all-new onboard computing. This of the MI09 was already conceived, the RATP and Alstom had been all preparing for a long time.

If Alstom wins the MP14, there will be a new design but the same onboard computing and the same motors/IGBT (old, noisy and too much powerful asynchronous motors) (source old ortfranciliens blog)
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Probably the case, also sounding like the MP 05...maybe...
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