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Old October 1st, 2013, 09:13 PM   #4241
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The MP05 is too much noisy. To put the same engines in the MP14 would be a nonsense, and the rubber technology would be nailed. There is a rapport with rubber and motors.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 09:49 PM   #4242
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Agreed. These new trains need to have some different and newer stuff, and a totally new design. I wouldn't even model it after the MF 01 if at all possible (if I was in their shoes lol)
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Old October 1st, 2013, 10:02 PM   #4243
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The only solution is to invest in the R&D to save rubber technology.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 11:21 PM   #4244
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True, yes.
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Old October 2nd, 2013, 09:05 PM   #4245
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Porte de la Chapelle >> Front Populaire (driver cab view) ~ I think we all missed this one.

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Old October 3rd, 2013, 05:41 PM   #4246
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and it's a great video... indeed...


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Old October 3rd, 2013, 05:45 PM   #4247
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The one I saw the other day, but forgot to post.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 07:04 PM   #4248
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I have read this on english wikipedia about World of Subways Metro Simulator:

Despite the fact that Aerosoft, the publisher of the series, announced that volume 4 would be set on a line on the Paris Métro, TML-Studios publicly released pictures and information that volume 4 will instead be set on the New York City Subway system in New York City, including the 7 line.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Subways
It's not a good news...
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 10:09 PM   #4249
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Not good for Paris indeed. Good news for New York.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #4250
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I'm not sure if I had already posted those one.
I was quite lucky, because there are not so many trains using the rue de Lagny railway crossing..
Afaik it´s one of the last two grade crossing remaining on the Métro network, the other one linking the Fontenay depot with the RER A in Fontenay sous Bois.
Both of them are of course not used for passenger services.
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Old October 4th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #4251
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That crossing is near Line 8 right?
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Old October 4th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #4252
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No, that´s the Charonne depot (line 2), next to Nation.
What's interesting there is that the "inner ring" railway bridge that can be seen in the background is now used by buses heading for their new depot.
It could be a nice picture to spot a metro on the street level and a bus on the railway bridge behind..
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Old October 4th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #4253
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That crossing is near Line 8 right?
it is an MF01...
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Old October 4th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #4254
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I'm not sure if I had already posted those one.
I was quite lucky, because there are not so many trains using the rue de Lagny railway crossing..
Afaik it´s one of the last two grade crossing remaining on the Métro network, the other one linking the Fontenay depot with the RER A in Fontenay sous Bois.
Both of them are of course not used for passenger services.
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very very lucky... GReat photos
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Old October 5th, 2013, 12:15 AM   #4255
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Line 15 South, fourth post
Part 1, part 2 part 3

Section between Villejuif Louis Aragon and Les Ardoines.
This section includes the facilities maintenance workshop of Vitry near Les Ardoines

Map and depth of this section



Villejuif Louis Aragon
This station will be located 31m under the ground, the line 15 will have an interchange with the metro line 7 and tram T7


Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 station
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15 station
Gare de Correspondance = Line 7 station, T7 station dotted
Cheminement de correspondance et d’accès = Transfer and access corridors



Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms




Vitry Centre
This station will be build 28m under the street surface, the tram between Porte de Choisy and Orly (T9 or T10) will have a stop at this station.


Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 station
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15 station
Gare de Correspondance = Tram station
Cheminement de correspondance et d’accès = Transfer and access corridors
This is dotted because it is a further possibility.


Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms

Entrance of the station



Les Ardoines
The station will be 25m under the ground and will provide an interchange with the RER C.


Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 station
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15 station
Gare de Correspondance = RER C station
In brown, the tunnel to the workshop.


Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms



To be continued with the section between Le Vert de Maison and Saint-Maur Creteil.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 02:21 AM   #4256
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Great posts, Minato. Thanks.

Maybe you can save / index them somehow so that they won't get lost?
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Old October 6th, 2013, 02:39 AM   #4257
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Agreed! Very well done! Where do you get the info from Minato? I'm considering doing an update post on the GPE on my blog. Thanks!
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Old October 6th, 2013, 07:05 AM   #4258
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I've just remember that some Paris Metro lines utilizing rubber tire trains. I was wondering what is the benefit of rubber tire when compared to steel wheel?
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Old October 6th, 2013, 07:18 AM   #4259
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Wikipedia lists advantages and disadvantages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-tyred_metro

Lines 1, 4, 6, 11, and 14 are rubber-tyred lines.
*Line 1: MP 05
*Line 4: MP 89CC
*Line 6: MP 73
*Line 11: MP 59
*Line 14: MP 89CA/MP 05 (beginning 2014)
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Old October 6th, 2013, 01:31 PM   #4260
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Disadvantages

NM-73 in Mexico City metro.
The higher friction and increased rolling resistance cause disadvantages (compared to steel wheel on steel rail):
Higher energy consumption
Possibility of tyre blow-outs - not possible in railway wheels.
More heat generated.
Weather variance. (Applicable only to above-ground installations)
Losing the traction-advantage in inclement weather (snow and ice)
Heavier as steel rails remain for switching purposes, to provide electricity or grounding to the trains and as a safety backup
Tyre replacement cost; contrary to rails using steel wheels, which can be easily repaired at little cost.
Create air pollution; tyres break down over time and turn into particulate matter.
Mmmm, it misses one very important thing : the architecture of the bogie. It is inspired by the trucks (it has trucks' live axles), so the output is very bad. There are thus important losses of energy.

The VAL208 and the NeoVAL has shrewdly withdrawn the live axles for a new architecture : wheel hub brushless motors with reducers. These metros are much more efficient than a classic rubber-tyred metro.
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