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Old December 5th, 2013, 08:12 AM   #4421
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I'm sure the supports will be quite sturdy. If the supports along the Line 2 and Line 6 viaducts have held up this long, then I'm sure the Line 11 supports will do just fine.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:30 PM   #4422
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:47 PM   #4423
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Porte de la Chapelle
The new entrances have opened.

I don't understand why they have chosen an old style for this stations, Porte d'Orleans new entrances that should open in 2014 have a modern style..
This is quite unusual.

















This new entrance and ticket hall is built cheaply with not too much aesthetic effort.
Just by looking the works, I can say that the new entrances of Porte d'Orleans will be better (and unlike Porte de la Chapelle which is in poor state, there are renovating the station as well).
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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:05 PM   #4424
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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:18 PM   #4425
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... Nicely done compilation video of Line 1 & the MP 89 & MP 05 trains.

[youtube.]39KESXVNd4Y[/youtube.]
This is a very interesting video.
My question is: Are the underground garages implemented for the automation of the line? Is there the possibility to learn more about this?


MP05 stock and interesting rear Cab View
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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #4426
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Neat stuff! I love the MP 05 video. I tried asking the author where he got the first music track from, but never got a reply.

And despite the traditional station layout of Montrouge, some trains arrive on the left side, hence an "exit left" announcement continues to be used in some circumstances.

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Old December 5th, 2013, 10:07 PM   #4427
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This is a very interesting video.
My question is: Are the underground garages implemented for the automation of the line? Is there the possibility to learn more about this?
A part of the old Porte Maillot station located inside a loop was converted into a maintenance workshop.
You can see it at 3:06 in the video.

This is the only change about underground garages on line 1, MP05 are parked at the same places than the MP89 when the line was with driver.
Unlike MP89, the MP05 can be parked everywhere in the line during closed period as there is no driver.
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Ticket hall...

...and corridors are very nice...

...but the platforms are in shameful state.

There are some relics of the era with drivers on line 1 (speaking like that gives the impression that it was a long time ago ).
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Old December 6th, 2013, 12:47 AM   #4428
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This and Porte de Vincennes are the two most run-down stations along M1.
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Old December 6th, 2013, 10:16 AM   #4429
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This and Porte de Vincennes are the two most run-down stations along M1.
Hôtel de Villeas as well.
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Old December 6th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #4431
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Which networks? You shouldn't look only the age but also the size. Paris metro is BIG with MANY stations.
There are very few networks with over 200 stations built before 1940, the big majority being underground.

When I look the network as old or older and of a similar size of Paris, none are fully accessible.
New York subway is not accessible, nor is London underground.

Take Madrid metro, the majority of the network was built after the 1970's and it has fewer old station yet many of the oldest station of Madrid subway are not accessible.
Even in Berlin with station much simpler than Paris metro, the whole network is not fully accessible.


Because it costs a lot of money, in many case you would have to rebuild almost completely the station.
But in São Paulo metro is fully accessible and it is old. They build some elevators and the trains is fully accessible.

A old train here at São Paulo with a preferencial door (normally in the 1st or the last door.)
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Old December 7th, 2013, 12:44 AM   #4432
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Sao Paulo subway is not old when compared with Paris metro, the first station opened in September 1974.
Also note that there is only 64 stations.

There are 303 named station in Paris metro, most opened before the second world war.
This is the opened date of the stations seen in over the two last pages.

-Charonne opened in Deccember 1933
-Château de Vincennes opened in March 1934
-Porte de la Chapelle opened in August 1916
-Corvisart opened in April 1906
-Les Halles (new version) opened in October 1977
-Palais Royal - Musée du Louvre platforms of line 7 opened in July 1916.

Even the old train in the picture built between 1986 and 1988 is newer than most Paris metro rolling stock.
But the issue of accessibility for Paris is more the station than the station.

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Hôtel de Villeas as well.
I think that Hotel de Ville is worse state than Porte Vincennes.
Porte de Vincennes is not that bad, it look worse because the station is quite dark unlike Hotel de Ville.


PS: Porte Vincennes opened in July 1900.
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Some chatter on Symbioz (the MF 67 thread) suggests that an announcement for the replacement of rolling stock for M3, 10, 12 is close, but......NO SOURCES.
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2 MF67 on Austerliz Viaduct
A sight now missed.

I don't pay any attention to the cascading of stock on the M9, factor.
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