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Old January 14th, 2014, 08:29 AM   #4481
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Is the Grand Paris Express going to be a normal part of the Metro, part of RER, or branded as a totally separate system/service?

And if separate, will it still be administered by the RATP?
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Old January 14th, 2014, 10:30 AM   #4482
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Is the Grand Paris Express going to be a normal part of the Metro, part of RER, or branded as a totally separate system/service?
Grand Paris Express will be fully integrated to the Metro network. All planned lines have been given a number (15 to 18).
Have a look at this map :
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...is_express.svg

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And if separate, will it still be administered by the RATP?
Lines 11 and 14 will still be operated by RATP (as extensions of existing lines).
As for the new lines, considering new European regulations, the transportation authorities will issue a Request for proposal and select the best bidders.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:50 PM   #4483
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Palais Royal Musée du Louvre platform of line 1 are closed for renovation works.
This is the first time a station is closed for a long period on line 1 since the automation.


Do you know how long this closure will be? I can't find anything about this on the RATP site.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 09:50 PM   #4484
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Two months.
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Platforms of line 1 will close from January 6 to March 2, 2014.
Platforms of line 7 will close from May 4 to July 24, 2014.
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Much of these 200 km will run through areas that are not so built-up.
In China, there are a lot of examples with faster results with no damage to quality. And many of them have been built in very dense built-up zones, even denser than Paris Intra Muros itself.

It is still too much considering that Outer Paris is not so dense as Intra Muros.
Don't forget that Grand Paris Express is not only a big transportation project, it is major development plan.
Around the new subway stations, new dense districts should grow.
Density will increase.

When looking the ratio of inhabitants/jobs per station, the inner city has more station per inhabitants/jobs than the Periphery.
It is the extra-muros that lacks of new transport, not the intra-muros.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 01:24 AM   #4485
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Thanks!

I thought you posted dates before, but I could not find the post.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 06:23 PM   #4486
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Porte d’Orléans
New entries and ticket hall under in construction.
Here a view from the northbound platform.

There were RATP agents inspecting the work, so, I couldn't take closer pictures.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #4487
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My post is related to the MP-68 of Mexico City's Metro, descendant of the MP-59. Do you know if this train really was built in the workshops of Fontenay?

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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:36 PM   #4488
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And a supplement question to that, what about Santiago's NS 74 & NS 93? Decendants of the Paris MP 73 & MP 89 respectively. The body of the NS 73 was derived from the Mexico City MP 68, but adopted the one-piece windshield of the MP 73.
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Old January 18th, 2014, 12:14 AM   #4489
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In Mexico City we have another train descendant of the MP-73, the MP-82.
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Except for the front design, there isn't much difference between the latest MP 59 and the MP73.
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Old January 18th, 2014, 01:35 PM   #4491
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Much of these 200 km will run through areas that are not so built-up.

It is still too much considering that Outer Paris is not so dense as Intra Muros.
It all depends on what you call "not so built up areas"... All the Paris inner suburbs has quite a high density (between 5000 and 10000 inh./sq. km on average, and some areas around 20000 inh./sq. km)...

Plus even if it's not that dense compared to Paris Intra Muros, it's still being built underground for most of the 200 km network... With some technical difficulties : 9 crossings under the Marne and Seine rivers, crossing under the vallée de la Bièvre...

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In China, there are a lot of examples with faster results with no damage to quality. And many of them have been built in very dense built-up zones, even denser than Paris Intra Muros itself.
Every project goes faster in China... Obviously... I don't see the point because nobody compares China with the rest of the world in terms of speed of construction... But, anyway, could you give more than 5 examples in China that goes faster than 200 km metro network (of which 185 km are underground, 72 new stations of which 49 have connections with the existing infrastructure) built in 15 years (between groundbreaking and opening)...?
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Except for the front design, there isn't much difference between the latest MP 59 and the MP73.
Well, the side windows are different too.
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My post is related to the MP-68 of Mexico City's Metro, descendant of the MP-59. Do you know if this train really was built in the workshops of Fontenay?

Greetings to all.
I would imagine that this element has been assembled in CIMT Marly (59) as for other Paris trains MP 59 and MP 73, and tested in Fontenay workshop and / or Paris Metro Line 1 before being sent to Mexico.
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n... But, anyway, could you give more than 5 examples in China that goes faster than 200 km metro network (of which 185 km are underground, 72 new stations of which 49 have connections with the existing infrastructure) built in 15 years (between groundbreaking and opening)...?
It's not still done . In french language : "15 ans. Dans tes rêves"

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I would imagine that this element has been assembled in CIMT Marly (59) as for other Paris trains MP 59 and MP 73, and tested in Fontenay workshop and / or Paris Metro Line 1 before being sent to Mexico.
I'm wondering if this indeed was the case for this train and the Santiago NS 74 & NS 93.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #4496
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Time Lapse - Disrupts Traffic - Saint Lazare
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It appalls me that even new tunnels like the one between Porte d'Orleans and Montrouge are already being riddled with graffiti.

Go to about 5:00 in the video and watch the train go to Montrouge.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 03:55 PM   #4498
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Time Lapse - Disrupts Traffic - Saint Lazare
I just watched that. Incredible how that platform gets so crowded. I can imagine when St Ouen opens up.
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Old January 21st, 2014, 09:48 AM   #4499
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I would imagine that this element has been assembled in CIMT Marly (59) as for other Paris trains MP 59 and MP 73, and tested in Fontenay workshop and / or Paris Metro Line 1 before being sent to Mexico.
In fact, no. The first elements were indeed built (and tested) in the Fontenay workshop. Then most of the trains were built in the Alsthom (now Alstom, formerly Brissonneau) plant in Aytre, near La Rochelle, not in Valenciennes.

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I'm wondering if this indeed was the case for this train and the Santiago NS 74 & NS 93.
The NS74 were built in La Rochelle too.

(source : La Vie du Rail ; credits : Louis Pilloux)

But testing this time took place in the new RATP test center located in Boissy Saint Leger.

(source : La Vie du Rail ; credits : 1st picture Alsthom, others Louis Pilloux)

The MP68 and the NS74 never ran on the Line 1 ; they are way to wide (2,60 m ; metro cars in Paris are only 2,40 m wide).


Remember : some pics I took 2 years ago in Aytre can be seen in the Paris LRT Thread
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Thanks for explanations.
I was a bit young at that date.
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