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Old April 3rd, 2014, 11:26 PM   #4601
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Paris metro is not the second largest transit network in the world and you can visit Paris without going to the Eiffel tower, the city is much more than this.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 11:42 AM   #4602
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Old April 4th, 2014, 10:20 PM   #4603
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I wonder how many Line 9 trains will be held over for operation for either Lines 10 or 12. I'm guessing that they're scrapping the oldest, most worn out trains.
They don't keep necessarily the most recents but those in better state.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 02:09 PM   #4604
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I made a new schematic map of Paris metro network.

Lines 2 and 6 form a circle
Line 1 is mostly horizontal with a bend to Gare de Lyon

The lines have smooth shapes with rounded angles and few bends, in most cases 5 or less.

I tried to make the map as symmetrical and harmonious as possible but still small enough to be printed on 20cmx20cm



You can see it in better resolution on

www.inat.fr/metro/paris/
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Old April 8th, 2014, 03:04 PM   #4605
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I made a new schematic map of Paris metro network.

Lines 2 and 6 form a circle
Line 1 is mostly horizontal with a bend to Gare de Lyon

The lines have smooth shapes with rounded angles and few bends, in most cases 5 or less.

I tried to make the map as symmetrical and harmonious as possible but still small enough to be printed on 20cmx20cm



You can see it in better resolution on

www.inat.fr/metro/paris/
Nice but I have some comments to make.

While I understand the Imperial garden in Tokyo network map, I don't understand why you put Jardin du Luxembourg in Paris map.
Why Jardin du Luxembourg and not les Tuileries, Buttes Chaumont, Bois de Vincennes, Bois de Boulogne... ?
To me, this is a non-necessary information in this kind of map.

I see that the T2, T3a and T3b are included but not the other tram lines?
While I understand the non-inclusion of those lines, I think that transfers should be visible.

You should change the color of the Transilien H, the color is too close of the RER E and this could be confusing at first sight.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #4606
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@Minato ku

Thank you for your your kind words and comments.

Jardin du Luxembourg is there because as in other cities I have tried to include specific geographic features. I could have been another park but Luxembourg is nicely located on the symmetry axis.
Furthermore Jardin du Luxembourg is kind of like the Imperial Palace in Tokyo (but guarded by the Gendarmerie ) it is a huge hole in the transport system of the left bank, you can only go around or cross it walking.
But I agree with you it is not an essential information, more of an easter egg.

T1 is not included because it works more like a bus (capacity, station spacing) than a rapid transit line, but you are right connections should be indicated.
The other tramway lines are located far in the suburbs and are not relevant on this map, they shoul figure on an le de France map (I'm working on it)

At first I wanted to include PC bus lines, just to complete the Maréchaux circle but eventually scrapped them because of consistancy, all other rapid bus lines should be added then.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 07:47 PM   #4607
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From The Atlantic Cities. What if animals from Africa invaded the Metro?

http://m.theatlanticcities.com/arts-...k-subway/8810/

From Symbioz: MP 89CC #01 (the train that used to have the RATP logos on the front of both ends of the train, which was also the first train to be xfered from M1 to M4) has been fitted with the MF 01 gangways.

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Old April 10th, 2014, 12:55 AM   #4608
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Planned extension to Val-de-Fontenay
Three routes are proposed

#1
4.9 km (6.8km or 7.2km with tail-tracks)
3 new stations
-Les Rigollots (Fontenay-sous-Bois)
-Grands Pêchers (Montreuil)
-Val-de-Fontenay (Fontenay-sous-Bois)

112,000 daily passengers estimated for this section



#2
5.1 km (6.9km or 7.3km with tail-tracks)
3 new stations
-Les Rigollots (Fontenay-sous-Bois)
-Fontaine (Fontenay-sous-Bois)
-Val-de-Fontenay (Fontenay-sous-Bois)

107,000 daily passengers estimated for this section



#3
4.3km (6.1km or 6.5km with tail-tracks)
3 new stations
-Les Rigollots (Fontenay-sous-Bois)
-Verdun (Fontenay-sous-Bois)
-Val-de-Fontenay (Fontenay-sous-Bois)

62 000 daily passengers estimated for this section



They are proposing three routes but the document is strongly in favor of the first route.
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For this extension the line 1 needs 7 MP05.

The #1 and #2 routes aren't very different ...
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Old April 10th, 2014, 08:42 PM   #4610
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What's the thin green line on the different maps? Contour lines?
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Old April 10th, 2014, 09:40 PM   #4611
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Geological landform, the area is hilly.
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The new entrances are now more visible than at the beginning


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Old April 10th, 2014, 11:37 PM   #4612
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I know that many people confuse but this is not the town hall of Montrouge which is located just across.
This building, Beffroi de Montrouge is a cultural and congress center.

It used to be an administrative building for Montrouge between 1933 and 2006 (with a police station) and was then converted in theatre when the admistration moved to a new building behind the City hall.
The building was completely renovated between 2009 and 2012 and became a cultural center.
Went for a couple of strolls through Montrouge these days, and I was very much pleasantly surprised. I really liked it - the first suburban ring's best kept secret?
I was thinking, how do you feel about the prolongation of the line 4? Do you think it could make Montrouge expensive and develop other such negative aspects related to gentrification? Or do you rather see only positive aspects?
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Old April 11th, 2014, 12:35 AM   #4613
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About becoming expensive and the gentrification, you are late.
Montrouge had one of the highest price increase in Paris metropolitan area, this last decade (close to the Central Paris and the arrival of the metro).
Now, Montrouge is unaffordable for the average people, except if he wants to live in a tiny flat (or have a social housing).
I live here only since 2007, so I haven't see Montrouge when it was working class.
Except buildings (many new residential buildings), I don't really notice big change.
I rather see the positive aspect of the arrival of the subway.
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About becoming expensive and the gentrification, you are late.
Montrouge had one of the highest price increase in Paris metropolitan area, this last decade (close to the Central Paris and the arrival of the metro).
Now, Montrouge is unaffordable for the average people, except if he wants to live in a tiny flat (or have a social housing).
I live here only since 2007, so I haven't see Montrouge when it was working class.
Except buildings (many new residential buildings), I don't really notice big change.
I rather see the positive aspect of the arrival of the subway.
Interesting, I see. It must have changed a lot, indeed. Now it looks quite good, even if a lot of renovations could still be done. (Certainly looks better than all other first ring suburbs I have seen except Neuilly and Saint-Mandé.) The prices are still excellent compared with Paris - during my stroll today I got to talk to a man who had moved in recently and has found to buy with less than 6000 euro / square metre (building from the '50s). He was very happy with his choice. But he did say that new flats have exactly the same prices as in Paris.
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Another station that looks like a dump. Could be much, much, much worse though.
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Old April 11th, 2014, 09:39 PM   #4617
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I made a new schematic map of Paris metro network.

Lines 2 and 6 form a circle
Line 1 is mostly horizontal with a bend to Gare de Lyon

The lines have smooth shapes with rounded angles and few bends, in most cases 5 or less.

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Good work !

Strange to read the name of the parisian stations on a "moscow-like" map

Speaking of the name of the stations... here comes something with a more classical look :



(the pic was taken in 2012, that's the reason why there's no T3b line no the map)


(Great news : the zoo in Vincennes reopens tomorrow !!)
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Old April 11th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #4618
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Another station that looks like a dump. Could be much, much, much worse though.
There are renovation work in the station.
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Louvre – Rivoli
Preparing the station for a major renovation, they have removed the cladding.




Louvre – Rivoli is not anymore one of the most beautiful station of the network.
This is how the station used to look like.

Picture by Pline, wikipedia
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this station is unusual for me, but I like it
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