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Old August 18th, 2014, 10:31 PM   #4841
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Old August 18th, 2014, 10:50 PM   #4842
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At the height of the rush hour.
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Old August 19th, 2014, 12:42 AM   #4843
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In fact no, I have taken this picture on a public holiday at 8PM.
Frequencies were quite low.
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Old August 19th, 2014, 09:04 PM   #4844
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Not really. République goes bonkers on rush hour, that's actually a relatively low number of people for its standards.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 12:32 AM   #4845
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For a new model train project (scale 1:22.5) I am looking for technical drawings of the Paris Metro type MF77 trains (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...sagnettes1.jpg).

I am looking for something like this:



Does anybody have such a drawing available (please contact me or post it here), or know where I can find it?
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Old August 21st, 2014, 04:16 AM   #4846
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Very interesting article with reference to the Grand Paris Express program, including these maps showing the expansion of the area reachable in 45 minutes from selected stations after the Grand Paris Express program and other transit expansions are complete. Orange is today, pink is 2030:


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Old August 21st, 2014, 10:32 AM   #4847
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The multicolored lights "Oui-Dire" (see post #4641) returned to another station.

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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:18 AM   #4848
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 09:30 AM   #4849
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Very interesting article with reference to the Grand Paris Express program, including these maps showing .... Orange is today, pink is 2030:


Yeah, it's not over with "métro, boulot, dodo"
(french expression for "commute, work, sleep" (and nothing else more interesting)
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 10:06 PM   #4850
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How large is "Greater Paris" in sq km?
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 10:02 PM   #4851
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How large is "Greater Paris" in sq km?
Depends on how you look at it.

Officially the 'ile the france' region is the 'metropolitan paris region'.

Maybe this picture (from the quoted article) will help:


The rings & respective numbers represent number of square kilometers which will be reachable within 45 minutes from the south part of the new ringline 15.
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Old August 23rd, 2014, 11:59 PM   #4852
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How large is "Greater Paris" in sq km?
I don't know if all the municipalities that Grand Paris will consist of have been chosen or if the numbers given so far are just estimations, but from what I remember the figures given suggest that "Grand Paris" will be a tad larger than Paris and its petite couronne, the "first ring" of suburbs, which together make up 755 square kilometres.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 02:16 AM   #4853
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At this moment, the size of "Métropole du Grand Paris", the intermunicipal structure would be 780km² (City of Paris, Petite Couronne departments and Argenteuil).
Paris and its contiguous urbanized area is over 2,000km², the metropolitan area of Paris (based on commute) is 17,175 km².
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Old August 24th, 2014, 04:21 AM   #4854
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@Minato ku:
Thanks for posting the correct & complete information.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 01:50 PM   #4855
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thank you for your answers. Over 2000 km2 is what I wanted to hear yet it is hard to believe that. I remember walking out in la Defence, after the CBD there was kind of techno-park and that was all, just fields after, like I was somewhere at the "bout du monde".

Petite Couronne, what is it?

The new ambitious project, will it cover all the area of Petit Couronne? I guess the farther areas are not so dense as Paris intra-muros.
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Old August 24th, 2014, 03:22 PM   #4856
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There are some non urbanized lands in Carrières-sur-Seine and Montesson (around the A14 motorway) but those lands are surrounded by urbanisation.
It is not at all the end of the urbanized area of Paris.

This is just a matter of time before the urbanization of those lands located in wealthy suburbs with a fast access to la Defense.

You can see that the Forest of Saint-Germain-en-Laye is also surrounded by urbanisation

In my opinion you might have seen the field in Carrières-sur-Seine which are next to Seine river after Nanterre.

Here, the flood risk is delaying the urbanization of the land.

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Petite Couronne are the inner ring departements (Hauts de Seine, Seine Saint-Denis and Val de Marne).

Normally Métropole du Grand Paris will be the City of Paris and the inner ring departments but the adjacent municipalities can join it.
This is the choice of Argenteuil, the municipality is heavily indebted and sees a better future in being linked with the powerful Métropole du Grand Paris than with surrounding suburban municipalities.
Argenteuil is not a small arrival, this is the fourth most populated municipality in Paris area and the most populated municipality located outside the City of Paris and the inner ring departments.

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The new ambitious project, will it cover all the area of Petit Couronne? I guess the farther areas are not so dense as Paris intra-muros.
The new project (Grand Paris Express) has no relation to the Métropole du Grand Paris.
Grand Paris Express is the construction of new metro infrastructure with big urban developments around stations and Metropole du Grand Paris is purely administrative (even if it is going to make big change in the city management).

Grand Paris Express will serve high density areas, low density areas and even non urbanized area to make development.
City of Paris, Petite Couronne, Grand Couronne (outer departements, outer suburban area and exburbs).
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Old August 24th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #4857
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@Minato ku:

Thank you once again for the information.
(You know/access An astonishing amount of information concerning French & in particular Paris' public transport..)

Does either line 15 or 16 also have A stop in or next to A large citypark or forrest?
Or is that being done by line 18?

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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:20 PM   #4858
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Just come back from Paris. Loved the Metro - the RER needs a bit of TLC on the central stations, but we all know that.

Took a few wobbly videos that people might be interested in, not sure, but I'll give it a go anyway. A few station tours.

Line 6 at Bercy.


Walk between Line 14 and 6 at Bercy.


Long walk between Metro line 1 and RER A at Nation. Sorry for the footage at the barriers - the Parisian barriers are a pain in the backside for filming (and for putting my ticket back in my pocket ha ha). I really should invest in a steadycam.


Got some more as well that I'll upload in time. I know they're poor quality, but they give a bit of an impression of the stations when walking through.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 11:08 PM   #4859
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Video taken in mid August ?
Platform hall of the line 1 at Nation does not have the multi colored lights in the last video.

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I have photos of the lights from my last days in Paris (which I can post later if you're interested). They didn't have them on when the video was taken (which was the 9th of August). I was in Paris from the 7th of August to the 14th.

I have some nice footage of the Translinien and light rail too, which will come later.
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