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Old February 23rd, 2008, 10:27 PM   #481
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St Michel Notre Dame on the RER B is a bit different since it was build with tunnelling shield.
In fact the tunnel was build before the station, the tunnel opened in 1977 and the station only opened in 1988, it is also the only tube type station in Paris.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 04:40 AM   #482
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Construction of the line 4 tunnel under the Seine in 1906






I find picture of the first Paris metro rolling stock.



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Old February 24th, 2008, 11:23 PM   #483
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Those are beautiful! =O
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Old February 25th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #484
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Saint Lazare station.

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Old February 26th, 2008, 08:32 PM   #485
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Did you note that inside Paris' metro corridors, there is a special smell: I have never smellt it anywhere. It smells Paris.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #486
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Did you note that inside Paris' metro corridors, there is a special smell: I have never smellt it anywhere. It smells Paris.
I certainly noticed that there is a strange smell on the metro - cigarettes and garlic sort of. Not unpleasant by any means, better than smelling brake dust or something like that!
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Old February 27th, 2008, 02:01 AM   #487
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Cigarette ?
You should confuse with brake smell, especially old rubber tired train one.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 01:48 AM   #488
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Did you note that inside Paris' metro corridors, there is a special smell: I have never smellt it anywhere. It smells Paris.
Yes I noticed that. It's the same in New York.
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 01:39 PM   #489
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Great pics. I still wonder why it is so dirty their. Paris is known as city of Beauty, of fashion, but its metro is far from being clean :S
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instead, some kind of guided bus will be built along the N7 corridor (yes, real tramways on real tracks also get too expensive)... as far as I know construction hasn't started yet - although it was supposed to last year.
Guided buses like TVR or hybrid systems like Translohr are as expensive as real tramways in term of construction costs, and more expensive as running costs. And you are locked with one single producer. Caen wants to extend its lines, but Bombardier doesn't want to build more vehicles...

Paris has learned nothing from Caen's experience...
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Old March 11th, 2008, 04:23 AM   #491
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Especially when it is in a way where a subway is necessary.

A view of Paris metro rolling stock.

MF : Steel tired train
MP : rubber tired train

MPXX : design date

MP59 1961 - 1974 (Be retired in 2011)


MF67 1968 - 1978


MP73 1974 (Be retired in 2016)


MF77 1978 - 1986


MF88 1992 - 1994 (Be retired in 2008-09)


MP89 1995 - 1999
Driver Transfered in 2011 to the

Driverless 1995 - 1998



MF2000 2006 - 201?


MP05 2009 - 2010 Driverless
No picture yet (similar as the MP89)

MP09 2011 - 201?
No picture yet (same design than the MF2000)
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Very nice pictures!!, I love Paris from all angles
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Did you note that inside Paris' metro corridors, there is a special smell: I have never smellt it anywhere. It smells Paris.
The subway in Boston also has a unique smell. I attribute it to the vagrants urninating in the passageways.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 12:18 AM   #496
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How many cars do the parisian metro trains usually have? I heard it's "only" 4-6, depending on the line, is that true?
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True, but the cars are not very long. Max length is somewhere 85 - 90 m.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 06:58 AM   #498
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When I went, we say a freight train roll past

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Old March 24th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #499
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It is not really a freight train but a maintenance train.
Like London underground these are made with old rolling stock.


Paris is not long and it is also not wide. Only 2.55m.
The train does not have longitudinal seats so their capacity is not high but Paris metro has high frecencies.
Moscow metro is really efficient because it combine high capacity train and high frequency.
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How many cars do the parisian metro trains usually have? I heard it's "only" 4-6, depending on the line, is that true?
Well :

6 cars (90 m) on lines M1, M4, M14 (and possibility to extend to 8 cars - so 120 m - on this automatic line)

5 cars (75 m) on lines M2, M3, M5, M6, M7, M8, M9, M10, M12, M13.

4 cars (60 m) on : M11 (but possibility - with the extension to Rosny - to have 5 cars ; the only problem today is a garage trouble : not enough space...)

3 cars (45 m) on the two small "bis" lines : M3 bis, M7 bis (but possibility to extend to 5 cars, because they were before part of lines M3 and M7).
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