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Old November 30th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #5021
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Past liveries have included the blue/white, used on all railcars prior to 1992.

After 1992, all surviving railcars (MP 59 and onward) were repainted in the current mint green/white livery. The MA 51 and MP 55 were not repainted prior to retirement.

Some MF 67 have some black on each end (front of the car).

The MP 89 (both CC and CA) have black panels throughout the exterior, with only mint green stripes at the very top and below the windows, and some white.

The MF 01 resembles that of the older railcars, but with some black on each end (front of the car).

The non-STIF MP 05 is virtually identical to the MP 89.

The STIF-branded liveries are rather recent, within the last ten years, though Minato may have a better idea of what year the livery was actually launched. The MF 01 of the 9 Line was the first Metro railcar to receive the new grey/mint green/white livery in 2013. Now we have the MP 05 sporting the same. This livery only applies to railcars and buses that were purchased through the STIF.
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Old November 30th, 2014, 06:59 PM   #5022
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Repainted is not exactly a good term because liveries are made of stickers.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 11:41 AM   #5023
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No, I think that he want the former livery.



I don't know but I now am starting to hate the old livery on the MF 01....
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 01:13 PM   #5024
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Past liveries have included the blue/white, used on all railcars prior to 1992.

After 1992, all surviving railcars (MP 59 and onward) were repainted in the current mint green/white livery. The MA 51 and MP 55 were not repainted prior to retirement.
In fact that's not totally true.

The MA and the MP 55 were at first painted in light blue. They were later repainted with a darker shade of blue.

Moreover, the traditionnal color for the rolling stock used for public transport in Paris has quite always been green. Most of the old Sprague-Thomson subways of the CMP were painted in green (only the latest built were gray). It was the color of the tramways of the STCRP, and the busses have always been painted in green since 1921 ; only the firsts Saviem SC 10 were painted in red ; they were quickly repainted in green !

http://www.amtuir.org/06_htu_bus_sc1...u_rouge_jr.htm

In fact, most of the public services in Paris - not only the public transport - use this color (including the clothes of the municipal agents).

When the MP77 was introduced, for some reasons it became soon impopular ; one of those reasons was its paint scheme made of white and blue, it was said to be "not very parisian"...

Now all vehicles of the RATP are at least partly painted in green.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 03:59 AM   #5025
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I said that "Past liveries have included the blue/white, used on all railcars prior to 1992."

Just to be clear, that includes the lighter blue scheme, the white "first class" cars, and the royal blue scheme of the MP 73, and later some of the MF 67, the MA 51 and the MP 55. The latter two were not repainted in the mint green.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 04:51 PM   #5026
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Paris Metro - Line 6 - MP73 - Viaduc de Passy


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Old December 3rd, 2014, 05:10 PM   #5027
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For the moment only Montrouge (south) bound platform is equipped


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Old December 4th, 2014, 01:16 PM   #5028
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Where does the name Ouï-dire come from?
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Old December 4th, 2014, 01:59 PM   #5029
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Where does the name Ouï-dire come from?
It was the name of the design agency
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Old December 6th, 2014, 12:06 AM   #5030
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Future stations CDG T2 and Le Mesnil Amelot on line 17 @ CDG airport.









http://fr.scribd.com/doc/249122610/R...-DIFFUSION-pdf
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Old December 6th, 2014, 02:17 AM   #5031
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Line 13 2010 and 2012

I know it's old but compare these 2 videos of line 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drKs...Z74hiF8T9BVqHt

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZtQkp0ce0w

I see a ton of difference between the 2 videos.
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Old December 7th, 2014, 12:44 AM   #5032
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My French is not too good, to fairly honest; it's near 100% bad. (Sorry)

I can't read the text in the legend-area too well, is it saying that the red-striped area is where T(erminal)4 will be located at some point?

The CDG T2 GPE-stop is going to be @ 40M depth..

Wow.. why is it @ that depth? Safe tunneling conditions?
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Old December 7th, 2014, 04:59 AM   #5033
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Old December 7th, 2014, 01:07 PM   #5034
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For the moment only Montrouge (south) bound platform is equipped


Also first time in a while I've seen ads on an MP 89. Last time, the trains were still on the 1.
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Old December 7th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #5035
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Regarding the RER B airport service:



Wow seriously? That's just lame.

This is how you do Airport Rail

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The upcoming rail link for Taiwan Taoyuan Airport

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Even Malaysian can do Airport Rail better



And India as well (New Delhi Airport Express Metro)



So what does France offer?

Does the TGV bullet train take your from CDG airport to the heart of Paris?

It better.......because the RER B train just won't do. Heck it look like a New York train (very third-world)
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Old December 8th, 2014, 01:09 AM   #5036
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Why would airport rail need to be so plush and comfortable that you could travel across the continent in it? It's just a short express trip within the same metropolitan area.
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Old December 8th, 2014, 02:00 AM   #5037
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Airport to city center can take 60-90 minutes for some of the more remote air facilities, and the trip is highly competitive. Paris has a relatively short trip, if I am remembering correctly, so it isn't that big of an issue.

But I feel insulted by the insinuations that this sort of thing is typical of the US. We have some pretty good equipment to quite a few airports and even the NYC subway system is getting a LOT of new rolling stock.
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Old December 8th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #5038
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BlackRaven, I found your post immature even if I agree RER B is not showing a good image of Paris for the tourist.

RER B isn't a dedicated airport line (47 stops and 147 million people per year).
You are comparing some dedicated airport lines (3-4 stops) against one of the biggest line of the world.

They plan to create a dedicated CDG line (CDG Express) which I think won't be needed with the Grand Paris Project (new metro line 17 will go to CDG)

They are also renovating it.

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Old December 8th, 2014, 09:11 PM   #5039
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BlackRaven, I found your post immature even if I agree RER B is not showing a good image of Paris for the tourist.

RER B isn't a dedicated airport line (47 stops and 147 million people per year).
You are comparing some dedicated airport lines (3-4 stops) against one of the biggest line of the world.

They plan to create a dedicated CDG line (CDG Express) which I think won't be needed with the Grand Paris Project (new metro line 17 will go to CDG)

They are also renovating it.

What kind of Stock is that that they are renovating? (and what kind was shown before?)

Also, I'd say that CDG Express is needed even WITH Metro 17. M17 will be for local service. There is still a need for such a destination as Paris to have an express connection to downtown. Besides, the CDG Express appears to use largely existing ROW, so it shouldn't be too hard. Might as well build it now rather than wait.
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Old December 8th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #5040
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This is offtopic. RER & Transilien thread here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=546006

As pointed out, RER B is gradually changing its rolling stock. The new ones are nice enough for these trains that do provide express travel to and from the airport but also have to fulfill the main service of commuter rail. (Although to their credit I have to say that the old rolling stock's seats are more comfortable.)
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