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Old July 29th, 2015, 09:50 AM   #5301
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Unfortunately, the only sound advice for people in rolling chairs in Paris is "Don't try the metro". Even when there are elevators, it is always possible for them to be in maintenance. Or worse, as seen in Saint-Lazare on line 14 last year: the elevators were blocked for a year because of a worker got injured during maintenance work, and the maintenance work was stalled until the judiciary action was complete.

To have 100% available elevators, you need pairs of elevators each time you need one, because those beasts require a lot of maintenance. Even on RER lines, even on new stations, this does not happen. The only places where you have it are the elevator groups in Auber, built for capacity and not really redundance, and the elevators on line 4 built in the 1900s for deep stations.

The stations currently planned should be better, with elevators in pairs. (in french only) cf www:societedugrandparis:fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/plaquette-sgp_accessibilte-bd.pdf

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Old July 29th, 2015, 12:23 PM   #5302
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May be Paris and suburbs need some hundred kilometers modern tramways.
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Old July 29th, 2015, 01:02 PM   #5303
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^ given how expansive tram lines are, a larger bus fleet will suffice for Paris to cover the demand from those will special mobility needs. For the rest there is the extremely extensive metro network. But for trams in Greater Paris, hell yes.
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Old July 29th, 2015, 01:23 PM   #5304
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Suburbs tram lines should go into Paris for some kilometers (my point of view).
for example the future T9 line till Place d'Italie instead of Porte de Choisy
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Old July 29th, 2015, 03:07 PM   #5305
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Paris is far from beeing the only subway system in the world where elevators don't always function!
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Old July 29th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #5306
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After a long trip in the USA, I am back.

CDGVAL LISA
Linking the terminal 2E gates K with the gates L and gates M.
The line is only acessible to people who have a flight in those.

Heading to the building the the gates L



Gates M station
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Old July 31st, 2015, 01:47 AM   #5307
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Some new thing at Châtelet - Les Halles.
The ticket hall between the RER and metro has been enlarged and the interchange corridor to line 14 has been deviated.
It will ease the flow of passengers.

On the left the old part and the extension on the right



It includes a new entrance to Forum des Halles shopping mall from the metro

New entrance from the old part of the ticket hall








Obviously, the work is not completed.
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Old July 31st, 2015, 05:25 AM   #5308
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How many gates does Châtelet - Les Halles actually have in.total?
Couple of hundred?
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Old August 1st, 2015, 02:08 AM   #5309
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Why does the line 4 is not indicated (for the Châtelet station I mean, not les Halles)?
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Old August 1st, 2015, 02:36 AM   #5310
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Because the access to the line 4 from the RER is at Les Halles.
This allows a better distribution of the passengers flow.
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Old August 1st, 2015, 07:46 PM   #5311
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Iéna

Iéna station by me, on Flickr


Platform of Iéna station by me, on Flickr
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Old August 1st, 2015, 10:20 PM   #5312
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@Minato, oui mais avant elle était indiquée puisque elle est voisine de la 14. Je crois juste que ses accès depuis le couloir vers la ligne 14 est en travaux donc fermé.
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Old August 2nd, 2015, 02:10 PM   #5313
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The funny thing is that before the closure of the stairs linking the line 4 platforms to the corridor between the RER and line 14, line 4 was the closest line to the RER at Châtelet, despite having another transfer at les Halles but I don't think that the Chatelet station of line 4 was indicated on the RER hall. At Chatelet-les-Halles RER station, line 4 signs always led to Les Halles.
The transfer to the RER was indicated on Châtelet platforms of line 4 but not the oposite.

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How many gates does Châtelet - Les Halles actually have in.total?
Couple of hundred?
What do you mean by gates?
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Old August 5th, 2015, 03:13 AM   #5314
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I will easily get lost in the maze of Chatelet - Les Halles.
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Old August 5th, 2015, 03:49 AM   #5315
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I will easily get lost in the maze of Chatelet - Les Halles.
Sounds like a one-station version of poor old Charlie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0
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Old August 7th, 2015, 06:57 PM   #5316
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I heard that it was the biggest station in the world actually
I always found it horrible thu, especially the actual distance between Les Halles and Chatelet which are actually 2 different metro stations but you never know precisely which line belongs to Chatelet or Les halles and you walk kms of corridors
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Old August 7th, 2015, 08:57 PM   #5317
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Châtelet is the station of line 1, 4, 7, 11, 14
Les Halles for line 4
Châtelet-Les Halles (because the RER platform links the station Châtelet and the station Les Halles) for the RER A, B, D

That's all ! :p
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Old August 8th, 2015, 01:58 AM   #5318
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The user (Luftschlange) said he will post a third video.
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Old August 8th, 2015, 09:13 PM   #5319
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I will easily get lost in the maze of Chatelet - Les Halles.
It's all a matter of getting used to the way the system works. As a matter of fact, it's not so terrible really. I find it easier to get lost in the multi-hub between Opera and Saint-Lazare. Well, I actually got lost there.

This being said, I've been really impressed by the maze at Times Square station in NYC. It was really intimidating to me. Granted "lines" in NYC are actually routes but, even if they are of the same color, they can be on different platforms and there are something like 11 different lines stopping at Times Square so... well I followed Minato ku.
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Simple as that? :p with 14 and 4 being actually closer to RER than other metros. You have to take many long corridors even between metro lines
But the worst is RER station with all the tubes and the indications are 25% wrong, on tourne en rond. I was born in Paris and lived there till 22, and I could still get lost in this system
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