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Old August 21st, 2015, 07:49 PM   #5341
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[QUOTE=Minato ku;126482452] There are more than 10 km between Gallieni and Porte de Champerret, same between Porte des Lilas and Porte de Champerret .
8.8 km is more like the distance between Porte de Champerret and Gambetta.


Minato Ku, I was thinking the same meaning the "point 0" was elsewhere than in Gallieni or Porte des Lilas.
There is an historical fact meaning that Gambetta has been chosen = Gambetta was the primary terminus of Line 3 when being agreed with the CMP in the first convention with Paris City. That's also why there are still traces from an underground turnaround below "Mairie du XXeme", absorbed with Martin Nadaud station when line 3 was extended to Gallieni and Line 3 bis separated.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 07:54 PM   #5342
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The video had nothing to do with systems of measurement, but how we count and write numbers. The French system of counting isn't metric, but the English system is (save for eleven and twelve, and going three-ten, etc rather than ten-three, etc in the teens).

While French units of measure are 'better' than the 'illogical' British ones because of the consistant base, why, when counting, did the French keep soixante-dix, quatre-vingts and quatre-vingt-dix rather than bring in septante, huitante and nonante like the Swiss did? Given that the Revolutionaries went as far as to try and metricate time, it's odd that they didn't metricate numbers.

Also 21, 31, 41, 51 and 61 are in the format twenty-and-one in French, with 71 being sixty-and-eleven, while every other number between 20 and 99 not needing an 'et' after the tens column.

un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix, dix-un, dix-deux, dix-trois, dix-quatre, dix-cinq, dix-six, dix-sept, dix-huit, dix-neuf, vingt, vignt-un, vingt-deux ... soixante-neuf, septante, septante-un ... huitante ... nonante ... cent, cent-un ...

Welsh takes it to the next level, going one-ten-one for eleven, nine-ten for ninety, etc.
I don't think this debate is linked with Paris Metro.....!!
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Old August 21st, 2015, 08:01 PM   #5343
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Is the construction of the northern section of the line 11(begin planned inthis year)?
Not yet

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Where can I find renderings of new stations at 4, 12 or 14 lines?
Line 4 here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2635

Line 12 doesn't have any renders yet, but station schematics:
http://www.prolongement-metro12.fr/2...-de-metro-m12/

Line 14 here:
http://www.prolongerligne14-mairie-s...-amenagements/
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Old August 21st, 2015, 10:09 PM   #5344
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The funny thing is ... lot of text..


What do you mean by gates?
I'm very sorry for the very late response, I meant Fare gates.

For those who do not know what station I was inquiring about, I asked this particular question about 'Châtelet - Les Halles'

@Minato ku, how was your nyc trip?

Do you have A (metro-related) photothread?
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 08:39 AM   #5345
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From Global Rail News:

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New voices for Paris Metro
21 AUG, 2015

[IMG]http://i2.wp.com/www.globalrailnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Paris-Metro-2-************.jpg?resize=720%2C400[/IMG]

RATP has chosen the 20 men and women who will become the new voices of the Paris Metro.

The operator held auditions among its staff, receiving 500 entries.

Phanekham Song, who is responsible for the metro’s sound and visual brand, said the winning voices needed to not only be clear but also warm with an element of originality

...
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 07:25 PM   #5346
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20 different voices? For what?
5 different languages?
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 07:29 PM   #5347
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20 different voices? For what?
5 different languages?
Male and female voices, 5 foreign languages (except French of cource). Yes
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 07:49 PM   #5348
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I'm very sorry for the very late response, I meant Fare gates.

For those who do not know what station I was inquiring about, I asked this particular question about 'Châtelet - Les Halles
Interesting question, this is why I spent my afternoon at Chatelet-les-Halles.

I only count gates where you need to put a ticket or to touch with a card.
So this includes entrance and exit gates for the RER but only entrance gates for the metro.
Transfer gates between metro and RER are counted in Châtelet-les-Halles number.
The wide doors for travelers with limited mobility are only counted once even if they allow to pass in both directions (entry and exit).
Note that the entrance fare gates for Porte Lescaux at Châtelet-les-Halles RER station are temporarily closed and inaccessible, so I did not count them.

As saturday Saturday, August 22 2015.

Châtelet: 32
Châtelet-les-Halles: 89
Les Halles: 14
Total: 135


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@Minato ku, how was your nyc trip?

Do you have A (metro-related) photothread?
Great.
I think I will post pictures on New York subway thread.
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 11:40 PM   #5349
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Interesting question, this is why I spent my afternoon at Chatelet-les-Halles.

I only count gates where you need to put a ticket or to touch with a card.
So this includes entrance and exit gates for the RER but only entrance gates for the metro.
Transfer gates between metro and RER are counted in Châtelet-les-Halles number.
The wide doors for travelers with limited mobility are only counted once even if they allow to pass in both directions (entry and exit).
Note that the entrance fare gates for Porte Lescaux at Châtelet-les-Halles RER station are temporarily closed and inaccessible, so I did not count them.

As saturday Saturday, August 22 2015.

Châtelet: 32
Châtelet-les-Halles: 89
Les Halles: 14
Total: 135
Wow, that's a lot of gates!

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Great.
I think I will post pictures on New York subway thread.
If you don't mind, would you please tell us what cities/metropolitan areas you visited, and which threads you have/will/might post on?
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 12:18 AM   #5350
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Boston, New York City, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston.
I have already posted my pictures of Boston.

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Male and female voices, 5 foreign languages (except French of cource). Yes
I don't know if they will change all the announcements, especially those in foreign languages.
There are 6 foreign languages that you can hear in announcements inside Paris metro
English, Spanish, German, Italian, Japanese, Mandarin

Châtelet




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The wide doors for travelers with limited mobility are only counted once even if they allow to pass in both directions (entry and exit).
It is these doors
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 01:04 AM   #5351
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It's getting fairly obvious I have not been in paris for quite A while, 6 foreign languages...
Are these anouncements only about stops or is there A extensive system that also translates or has standardized messages?

You obviously used your extensive knowledge from this forum to travel through the US, good for you.
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 11:43 AM   #5352
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There are more than 10 km between Gallieni and Porte de Champerret, same between Porte des Lilas and Porte de Champerret .
But you and Pierre50 are probably right. Those plates are called "PK" ("points kilométriques"). And this one probably show the distance between Porte de Champerret and Gambetta.

There are signs that show the depth, too, but they are different - and scarce.

In some stations you can find other plates that indicates the maximum level of the water during the great flood in 1910.

A bit confusing to me


Back to the pics... those ware taken yesterday during a hike from the bridge between Levallois and Courbevoie, up along the banks of the river Seine, to the Iéna Bridge.

The bridge between Clichy and Asnières (Transilien J and L); taken from the bridge between Levallois and Courbevoie. In the background, the bridge of Clichy (L13).



The bridge between la Défense and Neuilly (L1). A rare example in France of a bridge built for cars only that was at least partially converted into a railway bridge when the L1 was extended from Neuilly to La Défense (other cities made the same thing after that like Bordeaux and Tours where trams had to cross rivers too) :





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Old August 24th, 2015, 04:32 PM   #5353
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There is a specific law in France :
when you translate a french public announcement into another language public announcement (for exemple and I chose completely by chance English ), you should translate your announcement in at least one other language.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 11:52 PM   #5354
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It's getting fairly obvious I have not been in paris for quite A while, 6 foreign languages...
Are these anouncements only about stops or is there A extensive system that also translates or has standardized messages?
Stops don't need messages in several language because only the name of the station is pronounced.
In most city the message would be "the next station is Châtelet" but in Paris, it is only "Châtelet, Châtelet".

The messages in several languages are about the gap, service closures, and security advices...
Note that most of the time, not all the languages are used, in train it is mostly two foreign languages (three to four on line 1 depending the message) and it depend in the stations.

Here mind the gap
https://soundcloud.com/ratp_officiel...e-mind-the-gap
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There is a specific law in France :
when you translate a french public announcement into another language public announcement (for exemple and I chose completely by chance English ), you must translate your announcement in french.
Fixed.

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affich...tegorieLien=id

As far as i know, there's no obligation to translate an announcement written in english in another foreign language.

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Fixed.

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affich...tegorieLien=id

As far as i know, there's no obligation to translate an announcement written in english in another foreign language.
But I thought that, when you translate some French text, you have to do it in at least two foreign languages.
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In most city the message would be "the next station is Châtelet" but in Paris, it is only "Châtelet, Châtelet".
And yet they managed to achieve a pretty good result just with that change in intonation. I also realized that those who've never been to Paris and read "Châtelet, Châtelet" will have no idea what you're talking about!
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And yet they managed to achieve a pretty good result just with that change in intonation. I also realized that those who've never been to Paris and read "Châtelet, Châtelet" will have no idea what you're talking about!
Read or hear, or both?
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Read here in the post, hear in the métro.
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Oke, got a bit confused.
Sorry about that.
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