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Old February 12th, 2016, 01:25 PM   #5521
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Glad also to know that the line 4 will be driverless at the end of the extension works.
I'm also pleased that my local metro will be upgraded. I cannot help wondering, though, why they picked line 4 for conversion to driverless service. True, after line 1 (which was the first to be upgraded) it has the largest number of passengers in Paris. However, I would have said - based on my own, unscientific observations - that it has less of a capacity problem that some of the others. I attribute this to the fact that it is new, capacious, drives faster than most others, and that the passengers are well-distributed along the entire length of the line. Some other lines (e.g. 6 and 9) are notorious for over-filling on small segments of their trajectory during rush hours.

Might the reason be that RATP expects further growth in the number of passengers on line 4 (e.g. in connection with the prolongations and spillover to/from the future line 15)? Or is it simply the "next in line" within a plan to gradually upgrade the entire system to driverless service?
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Old February 12th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #5522
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Actually I read once that it is due because the line 4 is one that present most of the technical problems so that upgrading it and making it driverless they will solve the problems.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 02:18 AM   #5523
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Old February 14th, 2016, 04:16 PM   #5524
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Actually I read once that it is due because the line 4 is one that present most of the technical problems so that upgrading it and making it driverless they will solve the problems.
I suppose that could be true. Only one hour ago I had a little hiccup in a line 4 train. It was seriously delayed and a voice from the public information system kept blaring that the service on line 4 is "ralentie" (slowed down). When a train finally arrived it was jam packed, and once in motion we came to a halt in the tunnels 4 times on a total of 7 stations. The train driver kept informing her passengers that we were halted "pour regulation de traffic", but in the end even the parisian passengers (who are more patient with mishaps than stiff-necked protestants immigrants like myself) started banging on her cabin door and bellowing: "hey, what regulation?? We are 10 minutes behind the train in front!!" All that just to say...

...yes, it does seem the technology on this line is beginning to crack.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 05:21 PM   #5525
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I suppose that could be true. Only one hour ago I had a little hiccup in a line 4 train. It was seriously delayed and a voice from the public information system kept blaring that the service on line 4 is "ralentie" (slowed down). When a train finally arrived it was jam packed, and once in motion we came to a halt in the tunnels 4 times on a total of 7 stations. The train driver kept informing her passengers that we were halted "pour regulation de traffic", but in the end even the parisian passengers (who are more patient with mishaps than stiff-necked protestants immigrants like myself) started banging on her cabin door and bellowing: "hey, what regulation?? We are 10 minutes behind the train in front!!" All that just to say...

...yes, it does seem the technology on this line is beginning to crack.
Halted for regulation, this is a very common occurrence.
Too much for my taste especially on lines 4 and 13 (I live on both lines ) Funny to note is that 4 and 13 are two unlucky numbers in widespread superstitions.

It is true that the line 4 is one of the most affected by technical problems.
The line is also quite affected by passenger problems that's why they want to install taller platforms doors than on line 1.

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Old February 14th, 2016, 08:11 PM   #5526
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4 and 13? Good for you! Montparnasse is a very lively and convivial neighbourhood. I guess what I was saying is that "regulation" seems to become the cut-out explanation for anything. When I was a lad it meant "we're getting too close to the train before us". Nowadays it can mean... well, anything.

What kind of "passenger problems" on line 4 are you alluding to? I know that the stations in the 18th arrondissement are usually packed with a pretty anarchist crowd, but what harm could they do if the platform doors were lower? Jump on the tracks for the fun of it?
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Old February 14th, 2016, 08:36 PM   #5527
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I live in the southern inner suburbs, not in Montparnasse.
Depending the bus, I take the subway at Chatillon Montrouge or Mairie de Montrouge.

You can't imagine the number of time the power is cut due to passengers on the tracks.
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You can't imagine the number of time the power is cut due to passengers on the tracks.
Do you mean suicides, or crazy people walking on the tracks?
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:26 PM   #5529
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Will MF01 be used in other lines ??
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MF 01 is a rolling stock designed, in late 90's and early 2000, i believe the next rolling stock so called called MF09.. is a new design {sic} and shall be presented this year to the STIF/Ratp joint funds .
I believe that it will be a big design move in hope we won't wait 15 years before it become effective and rolling as actually we still have a 40 years old rolling stock delay... not to forget a huge heavy calendar weighs upon the Paris transport subways ... as we have a huge very huge delay upon the renewal of rolling stock.
it is my hope they will present and make a public choice survey to see how the users reacts as to me they are a lot of things to improve and modify... even on MF01 rolling stock.
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Old February 20th, 2016, 01:39 PM   #5532
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There is no MF09 planned, the next stock will be the MP14. I don't know how will be called the next steel rolling stock.

I think that the delay in the renewal of rolling stock might suggest that there could be other lines with MF01.
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Old February 21st, 2016, 05:05 PM   #5533
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Old February 21st, 2016, 09:54 PM   #5534
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Old February 23rd, 2016, 04:56 PM   #5535
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You can't imagine the number of time the power is cut due to passengers on the tracks.
You seem rather frustrated, Minato ku? In that case you might derive some vicious pleasure from this little video (I understand it's from Melbourne, Australia). http://news.sky.com/video/1644629/oz...ape-from-train.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 09:32 PM   #5536
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Transfer between line 4 platforms and line 14 has just reopened.
Bigger and better suited to traffic, it is not anymore narrow stairs.














Line 4 platform hall will be renovated with the automation and the construction of platform doors.
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Old February 26th, 2016, 04:16 PM   #5537
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^excellent!
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Old February 28th, 2016, 04:56 PM   #5538
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That looks fast!
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Old February 28th, 2016, 07:45 PM   #5540
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A little bit offtop: are there any plans of reconstruction of the old ring railway for passengers?
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