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Old February 28th, 2016, 07:56 PM   #5541
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No there isn't any plan. The T3 tram killed any chance to reuse the ring as a passenger line.
Some sections have already being converted as park.

Only part of the western part is used by the RER C between Avenue Henri Martin and a bit before Porte de Clichy.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 01:53 PM   #5542
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Hello guys, I'd like to ask you about the ambitious plan of Paris metro extension, is it already underway?
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Old March 1st, 2016, 01:54 PM   #5543
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A little bit offtop: are there any plans of reconstruction of the old ring railway for passengers?
Nah, that is way similar to Moscow MK MZD.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 02:35 PM   #5544
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Hello guys, I'd like to ask you about the ambitious plan of Paris metro extension, is it already underway?
Yes, the extension of Line 14 is already under construction, see the pics posted by Minato Ku above. The extension of line 4 from Montrouge to Bagneux is also under construction, although this is something less ambitious. The future line 15, the backbone of the Grand Paris Express system, is now at the stage of preparation works in the first section to be built, in South-Western Outer Paris.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 04:39 PM   #5545
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Line 12 northern extension is also under construction
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Old March 1st, 2016, 08:00 PM   #5546
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A little bit offtop: are there any plans of reconstruction of the old ring ]
A couple of decades ago the authorities were actively considering whether to reactivate (parts of) this trace. The plan was dropped, officially because the street tram that we now have is better aligned with the various metro stations. Unofficially it also played a role that the old train line is deep down in a trench. In today's society that means they would have needed guards on every station after darkness to protect weak members of society against thieves, drunkards and predators.
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Unofficially it also played a role that the old train line is deep down in a trench. In today's society that means they would have needed guards on every station after darkness to protect weak members of society against thieves, drunkards and predators.
That's so sad.

The elevated parts especially would have made for a scenic ride.
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Old March 4th, 2016, 10:36 PM   #5548
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Old March 5th, 2016, 11:42 AM   #5549
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Is construction of 15-17 lines started yet?
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Old March 5th, 2016, 01:49 PM   #5550
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Preliminary work has started for line 15.
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Old March 6th, 2016, 08:58 PM   #5551
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Old March 8th, 2016, 11:07 PM   #5552
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Old March 9th, 2016, 06:29 PM   #5553
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A couple of decades ago the authorities were actively considering whether to reactivate (parts of) this trace. The plan was dropped, officially because the street tram that we now have is better aligned with the various metro stations. Unofficially it also played a role that the old train line is deep down in a trench. In today's society that means they would have needed guards on every station after darkness to protect weak members of society against thieves, drunkards and predators.
there were various plans for reactivation since the 1970th but only of parts and not for the full ring - even it is not existing today - the link in southeast passing over Seine river were razed between Grenelle and Auteil. depressed is only a part in south and in north. Southwest from Grenelle until ouest Ceinture is elevated and covered for predistian recently. South east is in place and west mostly elevated. Northeast also - expect one section in east in tunnel. in North the area crossing St Lazare main line no longer exists. Many old stations are in place, but not all accesible/ visible - I visited them in 2014. the tramlines provides better service also with interesections to Metro. all former street-tunnels or overpasses ( it were many!) build in the 1960 along the circle road were closed and rebuild to the tram-trace.
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Old March 13th, 2016, 03:33 PM   #5554
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someone has a plan of the futur noisy-champs line 15 station ?
I tried to find them out in the thread but too many pages ... i may missed it :-/
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Old March 13th, 2016, 07:44 PM   #5555
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It is on page 215 .
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...87228&page=215
You can find the map of line 15 south from page 211 to page 215

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The platforms of line 15 will be built 14m under the ground. The line 15 south will have a transfer with the RER A, metro line 11 (ligne Orange in the documents) and the new metro line 16.
These three metro lines will have Noisy Champs as last stop.

Line 15 and 16 will be built in the same complex. Line 15 in upper level and line 16 is lower level.



Emprise de la Gare Grand Paris = Line 15 and 16 station
Tunnel Grand Paris = Tunnel of the line 15 and 16
Emprise du bâtiment gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15 and 16 station
Gare de Correspondance = RER A and metro line 11
Cheminement de correspondance et d’accès = Transfer and access corridors


Bâtiment Gare Grand Paris = Main entrance building of the line 15/16 station
Quais Grand Paris = Platforms of the line 15 and line 16
Circulation vertical = Lifts, escalators and stairs
Locaux technique = Technical rooms



This may seem weird to see that the east side of line 15 is treated as a different line while the line 16 is threated as the same line.
This is due to a major change on the project, in the past plan line 16 was the east section of the red line and the line 15 south was the south section of the same red line.
The orange line was a different line serving the eastern inner suburbs with a branch at the south side.

This change as swithed the orange line with the eastern section of the red line.
The south and west section of red line and the orange line became the line 15 (the branch of the Orlange line to Noisy Champs became part of line 11) and the east section of red line was separated of the line and became the line 16.

Nothing better than pictures to understand.
From this

to this
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Old March 13th, 2016, 08:01 PM   #5556
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Line 16



Chelles


Clichy-Montfermeil


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La Courneuve-Six Route


http://www.lemoniteur.fr/article/les...ilees-31621450
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Line 16

Okay, now I'm confused. Is line 16 just going to run from Noisy-Champs to St-Denis Pleyel?

And 15 will run from Noisy-Champs around to Champigny Centre?

Also, there are a ton of other dotted lines in this image, like "TCSP Le Bourget-Villepinte" and "Est TVM". What do these various dotted lines mean? Some look like possible metro extensions. Others look like new lines, or tramways, like that "Tizen 3" (I think) starting from Gargan on the T4 and paralleling M5. Tizen 5 is paralleling the RER C along the Seine. What do all of these other lines mean?
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Old March 14th, 2016, 10:42 PM   #5558
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Line 15: Noisy - Champs to Champigny centre, the line is a pan-shaped loop like Tokyo's Oedo line or London's Circle line.
Line 16: Noisy - Champs to Saint-Denis Pleyel

The grey dotted lines in the image like Tzen or TCSP or TVM, Atlival are busways.
There is one exception in the south between the two branch of metro line 7, the RD5 is the tramway T9.

TZen is a "network" of busway created by the STIF (Paris Region transportation autority).
TCSP means Transports collectifs en site propre, "public transports with their exclusive way". TCSP can designate anything with a little segregation from the other traffic, from busway to subway but usually this means busway.
TVM is Trans Val de Marne, it is the name of a busway line crossing Val de Marne department.

The small colored dotted lines are extension project of existing subway or tram lines (Metro line 1, line 5 and line 13, T8).
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Old March 16th, 2016, 09:53 PM   #5559
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Old March 17th, 2016, 12:52 AM   #5560
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Traffic of Line 6 will be interrupted between Daumesnil and Nation from March 25th to March 28th 2016.
Installation of a new rail switch at Nation.

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