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Old May 28th, 2017, 01:47 PM   #5841
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I would kill to get in the ghost/abandoned stations, but I know they are almost never opened to the public.
They are closely guarded ; moreover, since we're living in a state of emergency, trying to do this would be a VERY bad idea.

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since I'm still 25, I was willing to buy the Ticket Jeunes Weekend (2x4€) and concentrate most of my public transport trips in the weekend itself.
Ok ; be careful : this pass is valid until 12 PM ! And most of the time, days in Paris are all but short...

Then, my shortlist :
- the most impressive stations are not on the subway but on the RER A ;

- the subway lines were built by two different companies : the CMP and the Nord-Sud ; the look of their stations was very different ; typical NS stations can be seen on the line 12 ; NS stations are much more colored ;

- my favorite entrances : Porte Dauphine (Guimard style, M2) ; Solférino (NS style, M12) ; the stations on the M3bis ;

- the most beautiful view on Paris is from the RER C, on the Rouelle bridge between Kennedy and Champ de Mars ;

- the most complicated maze : Châtelet ; or Auber ; or Etoile ; or... ; the most complicated station without any RER station is Montparnasse ;

- the most impressive stairs : Télégraphe (M11), Abbesses (under Montmartre, M12 ; Abbesses is a typical NS station but with a Guimard CMP entrance since the station was not correctly renovated) ;

- the line to avoid : M13 during peak hours...

- the most unusual rolling stock is the MF 88 on the 7bis ; the line is largely unknown from the tourists ; the oldest trains are the MP59 on the M11 ;

- on the platfoms of the M5 Bastille station, the remnants of the foundations of the Bastille fortress are visible ;

- one of Paris oddity is the use of rubber tyred trains on several lines ; by today standards they are bumpy and noisy ; i suggest to stay on a platform of an elevated station for a few minutes to hear the very special noise of the trains ; you will never forget it

An finally, a funny way to use all means of transport from the center of Paris : RER B to the south, change at Cité universitaire ; T3a to Garigliano ; out at Georges Brassens ; follow Dantzig street, then turn to the left and walk along the former Petite Ceinture railway line ; leave the footpath at Balard, back to the T3a to Garigliano ; at Garigliano, take the bus PC1, change at Foch or Porte Maillot ; take the RER C to the north, change at Pereire Levallois and take the M3 back to Paris.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 02:21 PM   #5842
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They are closely guarded ; moreover, since we're living in a state of emergency, trying to do this would be a VERY bad idea.
Of course I never really meant to get there illegally I've read about exceptional openings during special events such as the White Night, but I assume they do it once in a blue moon.

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Ok ; be careful : this pass is valid until 12 PM ! And most of the time, days in Paris are all but short...
Since I should go there solo I think I probably won't stay out too late... Anyways shouldn't it be ok if I bought two week-end passes and I obliterated the second during the first hours of Sunday night?

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Then, my shortlist :
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- one of Paris oddity is the use of rubber tyred trains on several lines ; by todays standards they are bumpy and noisy ; i suggest to stay on a platform of an elevated station for a few minutes to hear the very special noise of the trains ; you will never forget it
Thanks for the suggestions and the infos! .
In fact, one of the most vivid memories I have from Paris is the smell of hot rubber you could breathe when entering the M4. Has the odor ever changed since 10 years ago? It would be traumatizing for me to find that out

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An finally, a funny way to use all means of transport from the center of Paris : RER B to the south, change at Cité universitaire ; T3a to Garigliano ; out at Georges Brassens ; follow Dantzig street, then turn on the left and walk along the former Petite Ceinture railway line ; leave the footpath at Balard, back to the T3a to Garigliano ; at Garigliano, take the bus PC1, change at Foch or Porte Maillot ; take the RER C to the north, change at Pereire Levallois and take the M3 back to Paris.
Wow, that's surely a long trip! If I have some time I would definitely try to make it.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 08:33 PM   #5843
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Since I should go there solo I think I probably won't stay out too late...
I'm never back to my hotel before 1 AM when i'm in Paris

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Anyways shouldn't it be ok if I bought two week-end passes and I obliterated the second during the first hours of Sunday night?
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Has the odor ever changed since 10 years ago? It would be traumatizing for me to find that out
No.

But the smell was not the same in the 70' ! The motor of the old Sprague-Thomson trains produced a great amount of ozone ; the smell of this gas was very strong.

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Wow, that's surely a long trip! If I have some time I would definitely try to make it.
2 hours if you walk fast and if you're lucky at the interchanges (but i suggest to take some time to visit the booksellers in Georges Brassens park ; they are open on saturdays and sundays ; its one of my favorite places in Paris).
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Old May 29th, 2017, 01:11 PM   #5844
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Photos of the construction of the Fort d'Issy-Vanves-Clamart station (transilien and line 15)









The concrete slab that will slide underneath the railway tracks in august 2017 (cf video at the end of the post for further information)







The Transilien railway tracks. They will be removed in august to let the concrete slab through.









And here's a video explaining what they are doing (notions of french helpful but not essential to understand):

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Old May 30th, 2017, 08:06 AM   #5845
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how 're going the works in Saint Denis Pleyel, very interesting interchange, where is planned will be served by 5 metro lines. Have the works started yet?
Is there anyone that could post a pic of the area, in case works started.


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Some prepatory works at the site began in March, but no main construction:
https://www.societedugrandparis.fr/w...dp_exe-web.pdf
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Old June 6th, 2017, 10:56 AM   #5846
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No, no, it's not true

When sections of line or station were built by the cut-and-cover method
http://www.unjourdeplusaparis.com/fi...etro-paris.jpg

=> they look, inside, like this : http://projets-architecte-urbanisme....00-700x477.jpg. Such section/method are not majority.


Vaulted sections or stations were generally bored, by such method :
http://www.ecribouille.net/wp-conten...ro-paris-1.jpg


A display of Line 3's cut-and-cover construction technique at Opéra. The vault heading underneath Rue Auber is visible

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_M%C3%A9tro_Line_3

I don't understand why Paris Metro was mostly built by the "cut-and-cover" method but its stations had a vault-shaped design.
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Old June 6th, 2017, 12:19 PM   #5847
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Haha - take a look at all those hats trying to get a glimpse of the construction work. At least that's something that hasn't changed - except for the hats
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Old June 6th, 2017, 12:56 PM   #5848
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Speaking of the construction of the metro, I love this painting, sadly there isn't a better image of it on the internet:



It's a painting by Maximilien Luce (post-impressionist painter) showing the construction of the metro in Issy. Impressive!

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...._98.04.15.JPG
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Old June 8th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #5849
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Same place (Opéra) some times before . Visible tunnel is line 3, under rue Auber
http://www.amtuir.org/04_htu_metro_p..._trou_ratp.jpg




Map of the site, where three lines (nr 3, 7 & 8) cross on three levels in a (quite) circular pit :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...des_lignes.jpg




Subterranean drawing : line 3 on top level, line 7 in middle level, line 8 bottom of the pit. One can see metallic frame covering the pit.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/pari...c-72484923.jpg




Inside the pit :
We are in mid level tunnel of line 7.
Above : the iron "bridge" , linking two bored sections of line 3 under rue Auber and rue du 4 Septembre
Future line 8 will pass under

http://www.cparama.com/forum/cartes2...x-1-DC-534.jpg




Decades later, RER A line was bored more than 10 meters under this pit by TBM.
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Old June 21st, 2017, 08:27 AM   #5850
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Preparatory works on the Châtillon-Montrouge station (current line 13 south terminus and future line 15 station) have started.

The station, which is expected to get 95 000 passengers daily, will be 31 meters deep.













They are currently demolishing buildings, mostly single family homes, on the north-eastern side of the Marx Dormoy avenue, in order to change the course of the avenue and widen the current plaza next to the tracks. The actual station building will be built on this plaza.



The photo was taken from the current plaza.







Buildings yet to be demolished.
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Old June 21st, 2017, 12:29 PM   #5851
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It seems authorities in PAris take rather good care of buildings awaiting demolition, instead of letting them rot or became spots for homeless/drug users as it sadly happens in some other European cities.
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Old June 21st, 2017, 02:59 PM   #5852
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I'm surprised by the escalator lay-out from Estourbi.
Those escalators will be annoying for a quick descent, it looks mall-like (you have to walk around a few times to take the next flight of esalators... :S

It lowers speed, no?
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Old June 21st, 2017, 09:40 PM   #5853
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This impression is mainly due to the perspective chosen in the picture.
You can see here that it is not the case:



You've got another escalator immediatly to the right of the previous one.

You can find more renders and images on the site of the architectes :

http://www.peripheriques-architectes...tation-line-15
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Old June 22nd, 2017, 08:31 AM   #5854
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Progress!!!

Last month I finally finished riding the entire Paris Métro after 20 years of trying.

The month before I also finished riding the entire Paris RER with a trip from Magenta to Criel and return on the one daily train of the RER that goes the entire distance.

I've also ridden T3A, T3B and T4 to include the outer branch that starts at Esbly even though that's an SNCF rail service rather than part of RATP or the RER.

My next several trips will be to finish off the tram network.

When I go on these little adventures, it is only after spending as long as needed with system maps of the network concerned. I write out directions from the Gare du Nord to each place that I'm going to and mention all connections so I don't get lost. I've already done this for the rest of the tram network. And yes, I've also done the Montmartre funicular one time. I got lucky and arrived just before the last downward trip of the day departed.

I've also done all the Bruxelles Métro and Pre-Métro plus some of the outer trams.

Same for Lille. The entire Métro, tram network and of course some of the buses.

And I've done the entire Belgian SNCB rail network as well.

Now that I'm fully retired, I have more time to do things like this.

I live in Belgium but usually drive into France to get a TGV to wherever I'm going on the day. I have an SNCF Senior+ Card and makes train travel quite cheap.

Métro Line 10 is a 'Must Ride' as are Lines 3 Bis and 7 Bis. So is Line 1 if you get in the first car so you can see out the front. You can also do this on Line 14 and maybe one or two of the others.
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Line 14 extension (5km) new station Pont Cardinet 17th district (North of Paris)
Will open in 2019













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Old June 24th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #5856
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Corridor linking lines 7 and 11 to the rest of the station at Châtelet.



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Old June 25th, 2017, 03:41 AM   #5857
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Corridor linking lines 7 and 11 to the rest of the station at Châtelet.

Am I the only one who finds a bit confusing the exits destinations to the right and to the left on those new signs? Exits 15 and 17 seem clear to be to the left, 19 to the right, but I am not completely sure about 16 and 18. Should I trust the position of the upper line 11 sign and considering that they are to the right? They should improve the spacing and the signage on those details...
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I would think it actually says "you can either go to the left or to the right to get to all these places", considering that there's still quite a distance to go in that passageway.

But yeah it does look a bit convolted, a down arrow at this particular sign would be less misleading.
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Old June 25th, 2017, 10:51 PM   #5859
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Surely no :-) That sign is confusing. At least in this picture. It is possible that in its location everything is clear.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 04:56 AM   #5860
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So, how long did it take you to ride the entire SNCFM de Paris?
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