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Old May 1st, 2008, 11:01 AM   #581
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We can include an interresting fact, these two stations are in the 16th arrondissement.

In the map the terminal station of the line 6 is Charles de Gaulles Etoile (it is the station where passenger exit of the train), but in fact the station where the driver change is Kleber. (Charles de Gaulles Etoile is inside a loop with one traffic track and can't be used as a terminal station)
So this is station in the western part of the line 6 with the biggest "time stop" (I am not sure of this term).

The long stop in Kleber is in the way Charles de Gaulle to Nation (Western to Eastern bound) not the oposite

Passengers are always suprised to see a long stop in a station where nobody exit or enter in the train.

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Old May 1st, 2008, 06:39 PM   #582
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Someone asked me to continue on the "special stations", so I answer on the forum.

5 stations were moved :
1 - Porte de Versailles (M12, 1930), for a better service of the Parc des Expositions, opened in 1925.
2 - Victor Hugo (M2, 1931). The old station was in curve, and the trains got longer cars : in order to attempt too big space between platforms and cars, the station was rebuilt. You can see the old one from the new.
3 - Porte Maillot (M1, 1936). Extension to Pont de Neuilly needed a deeper station, because of the nearness of the "Petite Ceinture" (the inner belt of Paris). The old station will become the workshop for the automated trains of the M1, in 2010-2011.
4 - Gare du Nord (M5, 1942). Gare du Nord was the terminus of M5, and was a curl with a single track : so the extension to "Eglise de Pantin" needed a new station, with 2 platforms and 2 tracks. The old one is still used, but for training of the future drivers of RATP trains.
5 - Les Halles (M4, 1977). During the works for RER station "Châtelet-Les Halles", a new station, closer to RER, was built. Old one was destroyed.


There are 2 orphans stations : they have no line AND no track !
"La Défense - Élysée" and "La Défense - Michelet" were built in 1970's for a future extension of line M1. But when this line was finally extended from Pont de Neuilly to La Défense in 1992, it was by another way : those stations are just "concrete pockets"...


And the special cases :
1 - Martin Nadaud (M3). Porte des Lilas was the terminus of line M3 before 1969. A new extension to Gallieni was plane, but needed to create a small shuttle line from Gambetta to Porte des Lilas : the future M3bis. So the old Gambetta station had a strange fate. It was a "double half" station with twice 1 platform between 2 tracks (because it was the first terminus, so in curve, of the M3 line before extension to Porte des Lilas). One of the half station became the terminus of line M3bis. The other half was destroyed and rebuilt in extension of Martin Nadaud, who was only 235 m far to Gambetta : so the station "Martin Nadaud" has been closed as station, but the platforms are still used, not by trains, but by passengers.
2 - Porte des Lilas Cinéma : there are 3 stations in Porte des Lilas, for line M3bis, M11, and the last one for a possible fusion of line M3bis and line M7bis. It's called "cinéma" because used for filming. If you see a station of Paris subway in a movie, you get 90% of chance this is in fact Porte des Lilas Cinéma.
3 - Invalides : before the idea of independant lines was fixed, there was a project of an inner ring (Invalides - Opéra - Grands Boulevards - République - Bastille - Saint-Germain-des-Prés - Invalides). The ring was finally never built, but two half stations were built before dropping the idea. One half station is now used by line M13 as platform in direction of Saint-Denis and Asnières-Gennevilliers. The other one is still a "dead platform".
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Old May 1st, 2008, 07:26 PM   #583
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We can include an interresting fact, these two stations are in the 16th arrondissement.

In the map the terminal station of the line 6 is Charles de Gaulles Etoile (it is the station where passenger quite the train), but in fact the station where the driver change is Kleber. (Charles de Gaulles Etoile is inside a loop with one traffic track and can't be used as a terminal station)
So this is station in the western part of the line 6 with the biggest "time stop" (I am not sure of this term).

The long stop in Kleber is in the way Charles de Gaulle to Nation (Western to Eastern bound) not the oposite

Passengers are always suprised to see a long stop in a station where nobody exit or enter in the train.
And Etoile is the only station in Paris with 2 platforms for the same track, one for alighting and one for boarding. This can be found in few other cities, only Athens (Omonia station) come to my mind.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 08:19 PM   #584
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And Etoile is the only station in Paris with 2 platforms for the same track, one for alighting and one for boarding. This can be found in few other cities, only Athens (Omonia station) come to my mind.
There's one like that here in Caracas, the Caracas station of the IAFE, but it's not a Metro system, is a "Cercanías" train.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 11:34 PM   #585
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In my station (Chatillon Montrouge )





The installation of these things start.
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Nice! Can't wait to check them out. They seem taller than the ones I saw at Invalides.

I do like the sensation you get when a train rushes close to you, a thing you cannot experience if these barriers are in place, but I guess it's safer like this, especially for certain disturbed, old or sick (with health problems) individuals.

It also allows for a higher platform capacity since you don't have to "mind the gap" anymore.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 03:15 AM   #587
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According the picture these are about 170~180cm. In Saint Lazare and Invalides the height of PSD were 150cm.

In Asia the usual height is 100cm.
Paris transportation authorities said that the Incivility in Japan was not the same than in Paris.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 03:47 AM   #588
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Nice! Can't wait to check them out. They seem taller than the ones I saw at Invalides.

I do like the sensation you get when a train rushes close to you, a thing you cannot experience if these barriers are in place, but I guess it's safer like this, especially for certain disturbed, old or sick (with health problems) individuals.

It also allows for a higher platform capacity since you don't have to "mind the gap" anymore.
You can get that kind of sensation if you use half sized platform doors.


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oh yeah thats cool platform doors because it will prevent sucides and all that.

oh yeah that picture was taken on the sunny bay station on the hong kong metro, that train there goes to the HK Disneyland resort pretty cool.
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Old May 4th, 2008, 12:16 PM   #590
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That train sucks. Mickey Mouse windows?

Anyway, even with those small platform doors, it's not the same when a train rushes by.
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huh i didn't know you didn't liked the windows of the HK Disneyland Rail car?
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That train sucks. Mickey Mouse windows?
Its odd but cute...
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HA HA! Looks like they play "who's the chicken" here.
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Old May 6th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #595
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Good pics Minato ku!

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HA HA! Looks like they play "who's the chicken" here.
Lol, based on the position of the tracks the chicken is the train the photo was taken from.
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That's right the next picture also prove it.
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#134 is the winner!
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Creteil Universite

Arriving in the station, a trains left it.

At the station a new train arrive, you can easly imagine the high frequency

I had few second to make my picture and re-entred in this train

We left the station



Creteil l'Echart

Arriving in this station.





In the station



The end of the overground part.


Well it is not exactly the last part of the line 8 above the ground, three stations after, this line crosses overground the Marne river.
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Ca a eté de merde d'oiseau???
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No, it is for clean the window.
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