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Old July 27th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #681
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* Frequent enough, but not as good as some other cities. I did find lines (line 3 for instance) where there seemed 10minutes between trains at 11am on a week day.
There should have been a problem. The frequency is never more than 5 min on line 3 on a week day.
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* Some of the most uncomfortable platform seats on the planet. Some were just metal bars. You can just make them out here. Who came up with this?.
At one time there were a policy to reduce the homeless population in the metro. So uncomfortable seats were installed.
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Old July 27th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #682
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There should have been a problem. The frequency is never more than 5 min on line 3 on a week day.
At one time there were a policy to reduce the homeless population in the metro. So uncomfortable seats were installed.
Thanks for the answers. The 2nd point about the seats answers why, but it wouldn't work anyway, as it's more comfortable to sit on the floor. Besides, I did see homeless people lying on blankets right next to those seats ;O)

Actually, this illustrates another major difference between London's and Paris's networks. London has so many more staff at each station (at least in the central parts of London). This probably does more to keep homeless people out, amongst other things. Though that probably also accounts for some of the reasons why the network is more expensive to operate in London with so much more staff.
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Old July 27th, 2008, 11:17 PM   #683
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Loads of above ground stations also helps keep out homeless people, it's not like there is much point!
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Old July 28th, 2008, 12:20 AM   #684
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Unlike London, Paris metro staff don't have the right to keep off the homeless until the closure.
RATP have some specialized staff to to encourage homeless to exit.

The line 3, in off peak hours it is even more frequent than 5 minutes, I never wait more than 3 minutes in off peak hours.
In off peak hours, train are often driven manually because since the accident of Notre Dame de Lorrette in 2000, every driver should do at least one manual drive by day.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 02:13 AM   #685
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Thanks for the info. Then I guess there must have been problems last week on line 3 as usually the wait was 5minutes though a couple of times 10minutes.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 08:51 PM   #686
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I didn't know Paris had these lean-back semi-seated metal bars. I've never seen them while in Paris. Are they everywhere now or only in certain stations/lines? I've never ever seen them. Is that going into effect to discourage homeless people from laying like someone said here?

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Old July 28th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #687
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I didn't know Paris had these lean-back semi-seated metal bars. I've never seen them while in Paris. Are they everywhere now or only in certain stations/lines? I've never ever seen them. Is that going into effect to discourage homeless people from laying like someone said here?
I didn't see them eighter.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:13 AM   #688
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Ah yeah I remember a couple of stations having those. Certainly they're not hugely common from memory.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 08:05 PM   #689
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I didn't know Paris had these lean-back semi-seated metal bars. I've never seen them while in Paris. Are they everywhere now or only in certain stations/lines? I've never ever seen them. Is that going into effect to discourage homeless people from laying like someone said here?

that's the sexiest image of paris i've ever seen
Seriously,very few stations have this sort of things and they're made to have people waiting the metro.they are more comfortable than you think.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 08:09 PM   #690
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This is Abesses when it was under in renovation.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 08:53 PM   #691
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I LOVE elevated metro lines (everywhere I've seen them: NYC, London, Paris & Berlin). I've yet to see the queen of elevated metros...Chicago's L-Train. I love the use of old iron or steel as well as the graffiti often associated with elevated lines. Meanwhile, here are some of Paris:

Both Metro lines 2 and 6 are mostly elevated and go underground near their western and eastern ends, which they both have in common (Place Etoile/Arc de Triomphe and Place de la Nation). So in a way lines 2 and 6 both complete a loop around oval Paris-proper somewhere near the middle of the oval/ellipse. What I like about these lines is that they allow people to see a more live-and-work Paris. In fact, both elevated lines that together form a loop also form a boundary that roughly contain touristy Paris inside.

Line 2 in the Right Bank (North Paris)


Line 6 in the Left Bank (South Paris)
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Old July 31st, 2008, 11:19 PM   #692
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Neither the lines 2 or 6 are mostly overground.
Every line of Paris metro are mostly underground.

The most overground line of Paris metro....

6.1 km - 13 stations
  • Passy (incl) - Pasteur (excl)
  • Saint Jacques (incl) - Place d'Italie (excl)
  • Place d'Italie (excl) - Bercy (excl)
  • Daumesnil (excl) - Bel Air (incl)
2.8 km - 3 stations
  • Charenton Ecoles (excl) - Ecole Veterinaire de Maison Alfort (excl)
  • Creteil l'Echart (incl) - Creteil prefecture (incl)
2.5 km - 2 stations
  • Saint Marcel (excl) - Quai de la Rapee (incl)
  • Bobigny Pantin Raymon Queneau (excl) - Bobibny Pablo Picasso (excl)
2.4 km - 2 stations
  • Chatillon Montrouge (incl) - Malakoff Plateau de Vanves (excl)
  • Mairie de Clichy (excl) - Asniere Genevillier Gabriel Peri (excl)
2.2 km - 4 stations
  • Anvers (excl) - Colonel Fabien (excl)
0.6 km - 1 station
  • Esplanade de la Defense (excl) - Pont de Neuilly (excl)
  • Bastille (incl)

The only overground line inside the inner city are the line 2, 5 and 6. The line 5 also have an overground section outside the inner city.
In 2010 with the extention to Creteil Parc des Sport, the line 8 will have an other kilometre overground.

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Old August 1st, 2008, 11:30 AM   #693
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The only overground line inside the inner city are the line 2, 5 and 6.
You forgot line 1 in Bastille which is overground...

Line 6 is almost mostly overground with 6.1km out of 13.6km, which represents 45% of the line.
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That Bastille station on Line 1 seems like it's on a bridge or something, what's the deal there?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:02 PM   #695
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Bastille station is over Saint Martin Canal.





Like Passy, Bastille station is overground and underground. A weird fact.
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Bastille station is over Saint Martin Canal.
Don't want to be such a pain, but it's not Canal Saint Martin, it's bassin de l'Arsenal.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 01:16 AM   #697
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I want to be an even bigger pain than you are. It's officially called "Port de Plaisance de Paris Arsenal", not "Bassin de l'Arsenal".

Seriously now, I think technically the basin begins right after the station, cause that's where the canal returns to open air. Am I right? This is just for the sake of argumentation of course.
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I want to be an even bigger pain than you are. It's officially called "Port de Plaisance de Paris Arsenal", not "Bassin de l'Arsenal".

Seriously now, I think technically the basin begins right after the station, cause that's where the canal returns to open air. Am I right? This is just for the sake of argumentation of course.
I agree. The station is above the canal Saint Martin. Saint Ambroise station is also very close from this undergound canal. It's why it's somewhat deep, as the line 9 cross the canal.
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I like the new Imagin R (Contactless card for 12 - 25 years old.) publicity.
It represent several Parisian youth.







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