PARIS | Métro

[Metropolitan]

Indeed Juanico, thanks for this quick and clear summary. However, I must confess that you're very optimistic for the opening dates. Apparently, the first line to open is planned to be the South-East line, and this only after 2020. According to my latest news, Arc-Express has been renamed LSE standing for "Liaison Souterraine Express" (Express Underground Link).

A noticeable diffference though is that the Métrophérique (RATP project supported by local councils) is closer to the center of Paris than Arc Express/LSE lines are. I guess probably it costs less to build it further away than to build it more in the core of the urban area.

It seems that everything is made by the region to promote the cheapest/crappiest solutions : Metro lines extensions are replaced by tramway lines, everything is planned to be actually built on several decades, many projects are even pushed back to after 2030 if they are not cancelled.

[iampuking]

Originally Posted by minato ku

What did you call cross-platform interchange, two line on the same track ?
Paris metro doesn't have commun platform for two line.

The place between Denfert Rechereau look empty on the map, it is because This place is deserved by the RER B.

Orlyval and CDGval are lights metro for the two internationals airports of Paris.

When there are two lines sharing the platforms in both directions...

[Minato ku]

A new station was inaugurated today.
After several years of delay the ninth station of the line 14 has opened the March 25, 2007. This station deserve the main chinatown of Paris, the universite Paris tolbiac.


Today Paris metro has 298 named stations or 370 stations.

[Minato ku]

This is the news system of information "SIEL" on RATP RER



RER A exept the branch of Poissy and the branch of Cergy owned by Transillien Sncf
RER B exept the northern part after Gare du Nord wich was owned by Transillien Sncf

[iampuking]

Originally Posted by minato ku

A new station was inaugurated today.
After several years of delay the ninth station of the line 14 has opened the March 25, 2007. This station deserve the main chinatown of Paris, the universite Paris tolbiac.


Today Paris metro has 298 named stations or 370 stations.

Do you have anymore pics of this new station?

[Revas]

You can have a look on these websites :

http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/article830.html

http://www.ratp.fr/lesactualites/laune/3904.shtml

http://www.exurbis.com/fr/2007/06/vi...ro-olympiades/

It's in French but you can find nice pics of the station.

[Revas]

Originally Posted by Jean Luc

^ Would this new subway ring line be metro or RER? Is it the one I've heard referred to as the "metroperipherique"? Would it be automated? Are there any other loop lines proposed for Paris, say further out in the suburbs?

Also, I see on the map that some existing metro lines are planned to be extended further out into the suburbs. Are there plans to do this on many of the lines or will the metro remain primarily for inner Paris?

Actually, the most advanced part of the "Métrophérique/Arc Express/LSE" project is the line between Arceuil and and Val-de-Fontenay in Val-de-Marne : they are already undergoing studies, and we may see the begining of the works for 2012-2013.

Metropolitan told you about the Grande Ceinture Ouest and the Tangentielle Nord. The thrird loop line projected is the former Tangentielle Sud, now called Tram-Train Evry/Massy, that will link those two cities. You can find a map of this project here.

For more informations about the GCO, you can have a look here and here.

For more informations about the Tangentielle Nord, you can have a look here and here.

And for informations about the Val-de-Marne part of the proposed loop-metro, you have the website of the Conseil Général : http://www.cg94.fr/node/800

[Minato ku]

This is the district of Olympiade

Scroll >>>>>>>

[Insane alex]

Beautifull!

[Minato ku]

Beautiful station, clean (obvious it is new), luminous.
But I don't like the new ticket gates, the older of the line 14 are more futurist.

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I learn some interesting fact, the real traffic of the line 14 is 100,000,000 journey and not 62,000,000.

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[Minato ku]

Better pictures by Metropole site.




According the website the ugly toll gates are only here for few month, after those will be remplaced by Météor type gate



Actually the line 14 has 389,000 passengers per workday, with this new station the workday traffic is estimated at 410,000.
Note that the estimation are always underestimating.

[iampuking]

Nice station! I hope it doesn't look dirty in a few years time. How was it constructed? Cut and cover or tunnelling shield?

[Minato ku]

Tunnelling shield.

This station was built in 1998, but it was an for the maintenance of the trains.
In 2001, the tunnel was extended to Maison Blanche for a new maintenance station, but the tunnel broke down under a school.
Due at this accident the construction was delayed.

This station should open in 2004.

With 100,000,000 journeys per year, I can say that the line 14 is the busiest driverless line in Europe, and one of busiest in world.


The line 14 is connected at :
- 10 subway lines
- 5 RER lines
- 2 big railway stations.

[Minato ku]

Feu vert au métrophérique. C'est un engagement qui pourrait peser lourd pour le projet de transports en commun le plus ambitieux de la région : hier, Nicolas Sarkozy a demandé de « construire le projet métrophérique ». Il s'agit de réaliser une ligne de métro autour de Paris reliant les trois départements limitrophes. Cela permettrait de soulager les lignes de métro et de RER, en voie de saturation complète. Evalué entre 5 et 10 milliards d'euros, ce projet colossal n'est pour l'instant qu'un voeu pieu. Reste à savoir si la déclaration de Nicolas Sarkozy sera suivie d'effet.

Source : Sébastien Ramnoux, June 27, 2007 http://www.leparisien.com/home/mavil...leid=276117385

This article, on the Parisien newspaper, say that the new french President want build Metropherique, the subway ring in inner suburbs. The estimated cost is between 5 and 10 billion €. This estimated traffic is 1 million passengers per day
Actually it is only a project but the construction can begin in 2010 according RATP.

[mrtfreak]

Nice station. I've never been to Paris (or France) before, but it looks like a nice city to visit. A few questions.

Are there any plans to extend line 14 further?
Is there space for additional carriages or no room at all at the stations?

[Minato ku]

Yes actually the trains of the line 14 have 6 cars but it can be extended at 8 cars. The only problem is Saint Lazare station, that would be extended.

The line 14 would take one branch of the line 13 at the north and one branch of the line 7 at the south.

[mrtfreak]

I see. I've seen a few videos on youtube that showed the stations had some extra space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqs00PlqtN0

This one shows the extra space kind of well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tjzYqjBkI

If I'm right, only line 1 and 14 operate on the rubber tired system that uses the MP models? So the branches to be taken over would need to be converted?

Thanks for answering the questions.

[Minato ku]

No the lines 4, 6 and 11 use also rubber tired system.
but these branchs are not rubber tired and would need to be converted.

[mrtfreak]

Ah, I see.

Merci.

[iampuking]

Originally Posted by minato ku

Tunnelling shield.

How do they use the tunnelling shield? 'Cause on the Tube it's quite obvious, but on the Paris Metro the stations aren't tubular at all...