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Old September 18th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #1001
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Newer, newer, the MP89 are not that new. These trains are over 10 years old. (OK, nine years old for the most recent).
No few people complain about the noise because it is not that noisy and these trains are more confortable than the older rubber tired stock.

The MF01 are very quiet inside and with air conditioned.
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About the MP05 (newest rubber tired trains) I don't know, it will not run until 2011-12.
Even if it host the same design than the MP89, motors are different.
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Old September 20th, 2009, 05:07 AM   #1002
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Okay then. As a part of a school trip to France in April this year, we spent the remaining five days in Paris (which turned out to be six thanks to Singapore Airlines' awkward depature shedule). Along with the buses, the Metro turned out to be a vital link in terms of getting to places. I was surprised how crowded some of the trains were, and being tourists, were a little unsure of things but it turned out to be fine. We made fun of the little rabbit stickers telling one not to stick their arms in the doors and it was always a race to see if we could pile all thirteen of us on the carriage before the doors closed. But here's a story.
Whilst on a train towards the Sacre Coer, this woman boarded and sat down in our area of seating. She was almost opposite me and she had a headset connected to her cellphone. It kept ringing and everytime she answered it, she would start yelling so loud, everyone in the carriage stared. At one point, she was screaming so loudly, I thought I would go deaf. The person next to me left at the next stop, so she came and sat down next to me and started yelling at the top of her voice next to me, even elbowing me and nearly punching me in the face a couple of times. Thankfully she left.

Which gives rise to the saying: You can say anything in Paris because no one knows you.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 01:52 AM   #1003
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Cluny la Sorbonne (opened in 1930, closed in 1939 and reopened in 1988 with a connection to Saint Michel Notre Dame RER station)



This station has 3 tracks, the middle one connects with the line 4.
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Old October 20th, 2009, 10:24 PM   #1004
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Newer, newer, the MP89 are not that new. These trains are over 10 years old. (OK, nine years old for the most recent).
No few people complain about the noise because it is not that noisy and these trains are more confortable than the older rubber tired stock.

The MF01 are very quiet inside and with air conditioned.
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About the MP05 (newest rubber tired trains) I don't know, it will not run until 2011-12.
Even if it host the same design than the MP89, motors are different.
How come the MF body designs become increasingly modern while the MP designs have remained fairly consistent?
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Old October 21st, 2009, 09:21 AM   #1005
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How come the MF body designs become increasingly modern while the MP designs have remained fairly consistent?
I think you may have miss read what the poster was getting at. The lower picture above is an MP89, you can find this body style on lines 1 and 14 (14 being driver-less versions). The picture above is clearly the new MF steel wheeled train. You can bet the new MP trains will look more like this rather than the older MP89's.

So I don't think it is right to say MP designs have remained consistent.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 02:04 PM   #1006
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No actually he is right the lower picture is a MP05 that will run in the line 1 and 14.
They used the same design that the MP89.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 02:11 PM   #1007
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The MP 05 trains (French Wikipedia entry) are already in production and have the same body as the MP 89. The first unit was delivered to RATP in May.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 02:40 PM   #1008
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Is the interior any different though? I really like the MP89, but it would be nice to see a new design for the MP05.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 03:55 PM   #1009
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Is the interior any different though? I really like the MP89, but it would be nice to see a new design for the MP05.
A video of the first MP05 :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9l...rte-maill_news
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:08 PM   #1010
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Merci.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 08:16 PM   #1011
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No actually he is right the lower picture is a MP05 that will run in the line 1 and 14.
They used the same design that the MP89.
Wow! Why are they doing that.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 08:57 PM   #1012
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Standardization of equipment most likely.
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 07:28 AM   #1013
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Hommage to Paris Metro launched this week

Hello forumers,

Please excuse me blatantly self-promoting, but the new book on the design aspects of the Paris Metro gets it's official launch in the US this weekend.

It's the first time the Paris system has been examined with such detail before an American book-buying audience so we're hoping more people in the States will be won over to the finer points of the worlds most iconic Metro! And maybe come and visit and try the system too!

Please please help us spread the word about the new book (http://www.amazon.com/Paris-Undergro.../0143116398/)- it focuses on the maps, stations and design of the system and is being published by Penguin - a real honour for the RATP and the international repuation of Paris transport. Even legendary designer Massimo Vignelli has kindly lent his support to the book

Given how very little exists in print in America about this subject and how big a deal it is for a publisher like Penguin to go with this title in the current climate, it would be hugely helpful if all you Paris Metro commentators on here give us a little boost and spread the word!

There's some real treats and surprises in the books 900 images - even for stalwarts like ourselves. Rare and unusual maps, this evolution of the signage, loads on station architecture etc.

Please mail your friends in the US and get them to have a look or order the book or even to come to the launch??? (In New York Transit Museum, this Saturday 24 Oct 2009, 2pm: http://www.nycgo.com/?event=view.eve...ils&id=183258#).


Many thanks to all who help,

Fellow SSC forummer and author, Mark
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Old October 27th, 2009, 11:18 PM   #1014
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A video promotion about Paris metro in the end of the 1950's and the new rubber tired train.

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Old October 28th, 2009, 06:14 AM   #1015
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Thanks for the movie!! It's awesome!!

I was always intrigued by the automatic gate that prevented people from getting on the platform in the 50's when the train was arriving. I've seen it in movies from the 50's but information on them is rare. You can see the gate in one scene in this movie.

What was their reason and when did they eliminate them?
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Old October 28th, 2009, 11:05 AM   #1016
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Paris Metro seems like a much better experience now than it was then.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #1017
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It was a decade after the WW2, the RATP had not enouth money to properly modernize the network.
Most train were built before the war.

In the video we see Sprague-Thomson and MP55.
None of them are in service nowaday.
Sprague withdrawn in 1983 after many delay
MP55 withdrawn in 1999.

Curiously we didn't see the MA (Matériel Articulé) in this video, it was pretty new at this moment. (MA : 1951 - 1994)
I posted pictures of the MA not so long ago.



http://www.viennaslide.com/p/0530-paris/Paris/M10.html
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Old November 8th, 2009, 04:16 PM   #1018
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I have a question about the metro. I've used it before and generally I found quite good and easy to use (both metro and RER). Later this month I'm going once again to Paris but this time my hotel will be close to metro/RER-station Nation and metro-station Rue des Boulets. Since I've never used these before I was wondering how these stations are regarding safety/usability.

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Old November 8th, 2009, 04:56 PM   #1019
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This area is safe and Nation is a big interchange with 4 metro lines and the RER A.
Don't worry.

Anyway desepit the size of the metro station, Nation is not a very busy area.
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