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Old June 9th, 2010, 03:38 PM   #1241
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The Paris metro is so dirty and the people less and less civic. The record seems to be: "I **** everyone and I did what I want in this rotten space !". They spit, they pee, they throws on the ground because the dustbin is 2 meters farer, they smoke arrogantly , and new fashion : putting the shoes on the seats ( these shoes that just finish to walk on many spits, of course !).
This is not an exaggeration, I'm Parisian and take the subway every day, so I am well placed for observing the shameful attitude of a minority of users. A growing minority...
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Old June 9th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #1242
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i have to admit , probably the worst thing that i saw in my vacation in Paris was the metro itself , the city is amazing and beautiful but as soon as you go underground it all becomes ugly and dirty , not to mention the fact that the trains stop every 20 seconds between some stations it's really annoying , i understand the concept of accesible metro but it's ridiculous to put metro stations at the same distances as bus stops. I think the RER is the real metro of Paris , get's you to the place you need fast and decent
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Old June 9th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #1243
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My brother and I also agree that the Paris Metro is real dirty. Not just the reasons mentioned above, but also the numerous grafitti that abounds the tunnels and trains. Sometimes, I think the grafitti problem alone is worse than New York City.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 11:35 PM   #1244
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Looking for videos on youtube, I found this.

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Old June 10th, 2010, 09:58 AM   #1245
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i have to admit , probably the worst thing that i saw in my vacation in Paris was the metro itself , the city is amazing and beautiful but as soon as you go underground it all becomes ugly and dirty , not to mention the fact that the trains stop every 20 seconds between some stations it's really annoying , i understand the concept of accesible metro but it's ridiculous to put metro stations at the same distances as bus stops.
LOL! I'll keep my opinion to myself and not comment. Must... not... type.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 10:05 AM   #1246
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new fashion : putting the shoes on the seats ( these shoes that just finish to walk on many spits, of course !).
It's not new, it's maybe you didn't noticed it before.
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Old June 10th, 2010, 06:24 PM   #1247
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Old June 10th, 2010, 06:28 PM   #1248
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It's not new, it's maybe you didn't noticed it before.
Oh, come on , it's more than marginal !
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Old June 10th, 2010, 08:20 PM   #1249
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The metro was dirtier in the 1990's, had more graffiti in the 1980's.
Today the problem is more the age of the infrastructure.
Paris metro had been completly renovated (trains, signalisation...) between 1960's and early 1980's.
What was modern before is now old, so less reliable.

So the 2000's-2020's are our new 1960's-1980's, everything will be remplaced or heavily renovated.

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Old June 11th, 2010, 12:25 AM   #1250
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The metro was dirtier in the 1990's, had more graffiti in the 1980's.
Today the problem is more the age of the infrastructure.
Paris metro had been completly renovated (trains, signalisation...) between 1960's and early 1980's.
What was modern before is now old, so less reliable.

So the 2000's-2020's are our new 1960's-1980's, everything will be remplaced or heavily renovated.


I replaced the link, it work.
Sorry comrade, The problem of dirtness of parisian metro is mainly due to the attitude of a minority of users who don't respect nothing (inclusive themselves).You can invest on the best equipment, if these users degrade this infrastructure they need deeply each day, it is not use .
I recently visited the Caucasus and the Middle East .For example in Yerevan and Tbilisi, stations and rolling stock are relics of soviet times, the offer is totally inadequate and therefore the use of these facilities is intense ... but it's still cleaner than the subway of the most visited city in the world (50 million tourists per year!) of one country the richest in the world. The problem is the incivility of a minority of super-individualis and disrespectful pigs .
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Old June 11th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #1251
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Paris always being dirty, this is not new. Paris metro is not dirtier today than it was in the past.
It is quite the oposite.
Of course like most people I want a cleaner metro, I also complain of the lack of proper cleaning.

The fact that Paris is the most visited city in the world is irrevelent.
The metro is made to move commuter, not to please tourists.
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Old June 11th, 2010, 05:26 AM   #1252
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Can someone explain to me what RER lines are? I know Paris have commuter train and regular subways, but what the hell are RER lines?
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Old June 11th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #1253
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Can someone explain to me what RER lines are? I know Paris have commuter train and regular subways, but what the hell are RER lines?
You should search for the thread "Paris suburban system".
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Old June 11th, 2010, 12:33 PM   #1254
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I tagged the threads about the parisian transportation with Paris transport

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Can someone explain to me what RER lines are? I know Paris have commuter train and regular subways, but what the hell are RER lines?
It is an hybrid system between the metro and the suburban train.
Now it is hard to say if it is closer to the meytro or the suburban train, it varies depending the line.
The SNCF RER are closer to the suburban train while the RATP are closer to the metro.
The SNCF RER covers more km but the RATP RER carries more passengers.
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Old June 11th, 2010, 01:11 PM   #1255
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I surely used this station maybe a coupple of times (years ago) but didn't remember how the platform look 'thin'. It reminds me Glasgow metro

Is the only platform in Paris of that 'size', isn't it? The other island platforms in Paris are larger
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Old June 11th, 2010, 01:26 PM   #1256
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It is quite narrow, anyway there are two island platforms in Porte de la Villette.


Carto.Metro

I am that there are other narow island platform on Paris metro.
Bobigny Pablo Picasso by exemple if I remember well.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 06:03 AM   #1257
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Can someone explain to me what RER lines are? I know Paris have commuter train and regular subways, but what the hell are RER lines?
Is'nt the RER basically commuter rail? That's how I see the system.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 06:24 AM   #1258
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I really liked the Paris Metro during my short stay in Paris. It's convenient, frequent and easy to use. Although it doesn't have as many escalators as the London Underground, it's not as deep, so there really is no need. The trains I used were clean and modern and I was very impressed. On another note, I liked the RER too, although I only used RER-C.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 01:15 AM   #1259
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Is'nt the RER basically commuter rail? That's how I see the system.
Well as minato ku it really depends of the lines. SNCF RER Lines are more closer to a suburban or commuter rail type of railway while RATP RER Lines are an hybrid between a Subway and Commuter rail as inside paris it acts as an express subway with closer stations but outside paris it is like a commuter train with longer distances between stations and higher speed.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 08:17 AM   #1260
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I was wondering if line 14 used a wider version of the MP89 than line 1.
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