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Old July 10th, 2010, 11:49 PM   #1321
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what is the progress on the Line 1 transition, as far as PSD installation goes? It's been a while since I last asked.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 01:23 PM   #1322
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For the line 1, it is in late.
The PSD are currently installated at Porte de Vincennes.
For the line 13, the installation began in Miromesnil. I will post pics late.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 12:56 AM   #1323
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Yeah, the wood panel looks very out of place. But its a good improvement in general.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #1324
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Oh yes much more legible. I like it. Looks like they are backlit by LED's. They should have made the line connection and "Sortie" bars thicker though. Just an opinion.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #1325
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It seems that the panel will be used for the the different maps of the network... But why is it wooden made???

Other information : The refurbishment of the Anvers station (line 2) is done. I don't know why it was so long. It took about 8 months for one single station...
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Old July 16th, 2010, 02:35 PM   #1326
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I don't know.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #1327
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Why are PSDs going up on Line 13?
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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:03 PM   #1328
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Why? Just to make the platform safer and to have a better passenger flow, people won't be able to rush into trains since the doors will prevent them from passing, something very important considering how the northern part of line 13 is overcrowded with very little room for delays.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:38 PM   #1329
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I meant to ask if there was another reason behind it besides the "obvious" (safety) reasons.
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Old July 16th, 2010, 11:11 PM   #1330
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It is also to increase the train speed when it arrive on station.
The line 13 will have a new automatic driving system allowing, higher frequencies.
One of the main problem for the frequencies is the time that a train wait in stations, including arrival because trains run slowly when platforms are crowded.

The size of train will not change, so I don't think that we can really decrease the loading time but we can increase the speed when the train arrive with the platform screen doors.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 12:47 AM   #1331
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So they are making the Line 13 automated too? Does this mean autopilot systems will be implemented on the exisiting MF77 trains on that line?
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Old July 17th, 2010, 03:10 AM   #1332
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In Paris all the lines excepted lines 10, 3b and 7b are already automated. When the automatic mode is enable the driver's duty is basically only to open and close the doors. This is the same in many subways in Europe and Asia (and on the L train in NYC).
The new system that Minato ku is talking about is just an update of the existing one. I don't about the details but this system has been exported to NYC on the L subway, which is now considered as the most reliable line in NYC.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 04:06 AM   #1333
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I get it now, thanks.

Why isn't Line 10 in this operation? The 2 sub-lines, I can figure out...
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Old July 17th, 2010, 06:53 AM   #1334
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Unused track that would connect 7bis and 3bis to create Line 15 via Haxo that runs under Place des Fêtes to the eponymous station. I'd assume it's just geographical naming.

Is there a plan for this?
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Old July 17th, 2010, 10:19 PM   #1335
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Why isn't Line 10 in this operation? The 2 sub-lines, I can figure out...
Because the Line 10 is the last used main metro line. Anyway in the future, it will have an automatic system.
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I see, thanks.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 08:10 PM   #1337
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Another question. I noticed on that one very detailed map of the metro that Line 4's Les Halles station was relocated during the building of the RER system. Does the "original" Les Halles station still exist? Or was it demolished completely?
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Old July 21st, 2010, 12:54 AM   #1338
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Why are PSDs going up on Line 13?
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Why? Just to make the platform safer and to have a better passenger flow
I suspect the ultimate reason will be to (1) diminish the RATP's payroll, and to (2) lower the RATP's insurance premiums...
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Old July 21st, 2010, 02:01 AM   #1339
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I think that it is less expensive to build nothing.

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Another question. I noticed on that one very detailed map of the metro that Line 4's Les Halles station was relocated during the building of the RER system. Does the "original" Les Halles station still exist? Or was it demolished completely?
As I know it was demolished completely.

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The MP73 running in the line 11 was parked at this station.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 08:37 PM   #1340
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MP 73 Line 11

It may sound odd to some, but I am literally imagining the MP 89s already running on Line 4. Can't wait for the real thing
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