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Old October 6th, 2010, 12:46 AM   #1521
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Thats awesome.
Indeed, and what about some other cities all around the world :

Lisboa/Lisbon (Picoas station)






Chicago (Van Buren Street station)




Москва/Moscow (Kievskaya station)




Ciudad de México/Мexico City (Bellas Artes station)

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Old October 6th, 2010, 03:53 PM   #1522
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Amazing!! I didn't know there were that many paris metro entrances in other cities! Lol, and why is the one in chicago called "metra"?
Futhermore, Ive read that only the one in Montreal is a original entrance offered by the city of Paris. The others are replicas but they still look pretty authentic except maybe for the painting that looks too fresh!

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Even in Paris metro network Guimard's entrances are quite rare.
Ive read on wikipedia that there are still 86 stops with Guimard's entrances. It might not be the most common but there are still quite alot!

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Old October 6th, 2010, 04:28 PM   #1523
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Even in Paris metro network Guimard's entrances are quite rare.
There are still loads of "Edicules Guimard" in Paris...

See here.
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Old October 6th, 2010, 04:43 PM   #1524
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Thanks Sacré Coeur.
WOW, The one in nation :

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Old October 6th, 2010, 05:29 PM   #1525
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Lol, and why is the one in chicago called "metra"?
I asked myself the same question when I was there ! As a matter of fact, "Metra" is abbreviation of "Metropolitan Rail", nothing to do with the "Métro", since Metra is the RER-like system of Chicago .

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Futhermore, Ive read that only the one in Montreal is a original entrance offered by the city of Paris. The others are replicas
I don't know about that, but what I know is that they all have been offered by the RATP/City of Paris, within cultural exchanges.




BTW here are two other entrances which are not replicas, I believe:

New York City, MoMA:


Paris, RATP headquarters:


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Ive read on wikipedia that there are still 86 stops with Guimard's entrances. It might not be the most common but there are still quite alot!
Indeed, 86 out of 130 originally (=a significant part), All are protected as historical monument (symbol of Art-Nouveau style). Besides I don't know if that list includes the fake-Guimard entrance rue de Rivoli (Châtelet station).
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Old October 6th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #1526
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Right, my sentance was badly writted, I wanted to say that Guimard entraces are not as frequent as people believe.
86 out 141 means that 55 were destroyed, it is still a lot.

What do you mean by the fake Guimard entrance at Chatelet ?
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Old October 6th, 2010, 07:11 PM   #1527
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By fake I mean it was erected in 2000..... (a long time after Guimard's death )






It's a replica of this model: ("La Libellule", there were 2 versions: closed or open sides)

Gare de Lyon & Pte de Vincennes stations.





Here is the only remaining original entrance of this model :

Porte Dauphine station.

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Old October 7th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #1528
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BTW here are two other entrances which are not replicas, I believe:

New York City, MoMA:


Paris, RATP headquarters:




Indeed, 86 out of 130 originally (=a significant part), All are protected as historical monument (symbol of Art-Nouveau style). Besides I don't know if that list includes the fake-Guimard entrance rue de Rivoli (Châtelet station).
Where is the New York one located?
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Old October 7th, 2010, 02:51 AM   #1529
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^ It says MoMA, Museum of Modern Art.
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Old October 7th, 2010, 05:59 AM   #1530
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Oh, I see. lol
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Old October 7th, 2010, 10:50 PM   #1531
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No, it isn't....I mean... I thought it wasn't an issue anymore...

BTW, I hadn't seen a train like that since at least the late 80s! !!


P.S. Anyway, I suspect it didn't stay like that for long !
Until the early 90's, it was worst because the trains were not cleaned...

The line 13 in 1993:

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Old October 8th, 2010, 04:43 PM   #1532
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All of this was for the nuit blanche, a famous event during the night of the first saturday of October. Unfortunately, I heard that the line 14 shut down for several hours due at a technical problem.
Right. It was closed from about 00H30. There were hundreds of people stuck in Olympiades (so in the middle of nowhere )
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Old October 8th, 2010, 08:02 PM   #1533
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Until the early 90's, it was worst because the trains were not cleaned...

The line 13 in 1993:
Yeah, that's exactly what I had in mind !

speaking of which, with some friends we made jokes about that back then: "hey, look at the RATP graffiti..." etc etc
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Old October 8th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #1534
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any sugesstions before Tuesday's (12.10) general strike? i'll try to take some photos in the Metro.
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Old October 9th, 2010, 03:34 PM   #1535
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Strikes in the Paris metro are not what they used to be. Now theres a minimum service, maybe 2 out of 3 trains, so it's not too bad I want to say. I remember the chaos of strikes 7 years ago, where there were traffic jams everywhere for hours and so many people walking in the street, going home from the city center to far away suburbs.
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Strikes in the Paris metro are not what they used to be. Now theres a minimum service, maybe 2 out of 3 trains, so it's not too bad I want to say. I remember the chaos of strikes 7 years ago, where there were traffic jams everywhere for hours and so many people walking in the street, going home from the city center to far away suburbs.
so how long will it take to get from Stalingrad to Clichy at 8 o'clock in the mornig? lines 2 and 13 are usually very busy that time.
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Old October 10th, 2010, 03:38 PM   #1537
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Normally according RATP site in metro between Stalingrad and Mairie de Clichy, it takes 15 minutes.
-It seems that they underrate the change at Place de Clichy, only 1 minutes according the site, over 2 minutes according me.
-I don't know if they also include the fact that train runs slower in rush hours, especially in the line 13.
-Don't also forget that the strike decreases even more the speed of the train and increases the waiting time.

So instead of 15 minutes I will say 30 minutes.

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Its good that there is basic service when strikes do occur. Does Line 14 run relatively normal during strikes? Being that it is automated? I hope Line 1 will be able to function more normally during strikes when the automated system goes online next year.
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Old October 10th, 2010, 11:14 PM   #1539
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Here is the only remaining original entrance of this model :

Porte Dauphine station.
The one in Abbesses (line 12) seems to be on this model too, doesn't it?

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Old October 10th, 2010, 11:49 PM   #1540
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Normally according RATP site in metro between Stalingrad and Mairie de Clichy, it takes 15 minutes.
-It seems that they underrate the change at Place de Clichy, only 1 minutes according the site, over 2 minutes according me.
-I don't know if they also include the fact that train runs slower in rush hours, especially in the line 13.
-Don't also forget that the strike decreases even more the speed of the train and increases the waiting time.

So instead of 15 minutes I will say 30 minutes.
thanks for your advice. anyways, i'm planning to leave at least 1 hour earlier than usual. just to be 100% sure to get on time.
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