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Old October 24th, 2006, 05:38 PM   #141
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Would it make sense to use existing sections of the tram lines for the Métrophérique?
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Old October 24th, 2006, 08:23 PM   #142
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No a tramway is very ineficient for a big city

Only the infrastructure of the T2 could be use for the Metropherique
the T3 is in Paris but the metropherique should be only in inner suburbs.
the T1 and T3 are not separated for the street

T1


T2


T3


It is impossible to transform that in subway

The metropherique could be have 1,000,000 commuter per average workday


The area where Metropherique would be is that.

Paris western inner suburbs. Nothing in that picture is located in the city proper.
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Paris Northern inner suburbs Nothing in that picture is located in the city proper.
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Paris eastern inner suburbs only the big Park is located in the city proper
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Old October 25th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #143
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Great! That's just what France needed! The government is already thinking of how to spend more on Paris' subway while building "busways" in other major cities!
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Old October 25th, 2006, 12:32 PM   #144
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Do I detect a little jealousy here?
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Old October 25th, 2006, 12:38 PM   #145
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OTOH: a ring line could be for the greater benefit of Paris. Amsterdam, although much and much smaller, built its version of a ring line in the late nineties. The line connects three major employment hubs not located in the historic centre: Sloterdijk in the northwest (where the main railway line from Schiphol Airport intersects with regional railway lines from towns like Haarlem, Alkmaar, Zaandam and Hoorn), Zuid/WTC in the south (where a light rail line intersects going into the only tunnel section in the city centre, and where the future North-South metro line should also end), one of the major redevelopment areas at this moment, and Bijlmer or Zuidoost in the southeast, where the city's football stadium is located, amongst others. This maps shows what I told:

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Old October 25th, 2006, 03:07 PM   #146
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Do I detect a little jealousy here?
Neeeeeeeeh!
Being French and living outside Paris (Not that I want to live in Paris) can just be a little frustrating sometimes!
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Old October 25th, 2006, 04:12 PM   #147
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Yes I understand but this project is very important for more than 4 millions inhabitants.
In fact this project is important for the whole of Paris urban area.
Other French cities are less populated (no one are more than two millions inh in Urban area)
Don't worried busway are planned in Paris urban area too.
No many project are planned in Lille but in Lyon Marseille Toulouse...
(Metro Tramway)

Other ring is planned by the SNCF la grande Ceinture
One little part of this ring is open
this ring will be located in Oulter suburbs
But Sncf train are less efficient than a subway
Metro Ratp 2min
Transillien 15min
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Old October 27th, 2006, 01:54 AM   #148
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Yes I understand but this project is very important for more than 4 millions inhabitants.
In fact this project is important for the whole of Paris urban area.
Other French cities are less pollulated (no one are more than two millions inh in Urban area)
Don't worried busway are planned in Paris urban area too.
No many project are planned in Lille but in Lyon Marseille Toulouse...
(Metro Tramway)

Other ring is planned by the SNCF la grande Ceinture
One little part of this ring is open
this ring will be located in Oulter suburbs
But Sncf train are less efficient than a subway
Metro Ratp 2min
Transillien 15min
The more you spend in Paris , the less you spend everywhere else.
Lille has mass transit projects involving its 3.7 million inh. metropolitan area, but it will probably take a "metropherique" and a "Grand Central Station" under the Place de la République before the government considers financing them.
Traffic congestion is an important issue in every French major cities.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 12:41 PM   #149
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Ligne 14 to Olympiades already completed?

At least: according to the present RATP map. I was in Paris the other day and didn't have time to explore it myself. But I can remember the line would not be open before the end of this year.

Anybody who can explain this? Did the line open ahead of schedule, or is this an error on the RATP map?
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Old February 19th, 2007, 01:06 PM   #150
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No this station will open in april or may 2007

The line 14 has some problem because the extention.
In fact this station was built in 1998 but it was the park maintenance of the line 14
The maintenance station was transferred a little further
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Old February 19th, 2007, 01:27 PM   #151
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Hey, thanks!

Do you have any idea why the extension is already on the present map (without any note that the line is still u/c)?
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Old February 19th, 2007, 02:06 PM   #152
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In RATP map normally it is written Avril 2007 "April 2007" but I agree it is not very clear

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Old February 19th, 2007, 04:32 PM   #153
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In RATP map normally it is written Avril 2007 "April 2007" but I agree it is not very clear
As I've understoot it, the RATP needed to reprint all its map in order to show the new T3 LRT line. As Olympiades should open only 4 months later, they already put it on their map in order to avoid two reprints so close one to the other. On the whole network, the new lines map makes appear the current 4 LRT lines and they mention Olympiades as last station of metro line 14.

What I find silly however is that works to extend line 14 so that it would be connected to the current Northwestern branch of line 13 and the current southern branch of line 7 are not even yet approved. Knowing that the northwestern branch of line 13 will be extended and that this line is already the most saturated of the network, I don't understand this.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 07:28 PM   #154
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My photos of Line 14 stations:


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Old May 6th, 2007, 08:05 PM   #155
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The extention was reported at june 2007.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 09:11 PM   #156
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PARIS | Métro

Paris Metro



Facts
  • Opened in July 1900
  • Last extention opened in March 2013
  • 16 lines (14 main lines and 2bis lines)
  • 303 stations
  • 218.4 km
  • 1.541 billion passengers in 2012

Rolling stocks
MF for steel and MP for rubber tired
  • MP59: (1963 - 1974)
  • MF67: (1968 - 1978)
  • MP73: (1974)
  • MF77: (1978 - 1986)
  • MF88: (1992 - 1994)
  • MP89: (1997 - 2000)
  • MF01: (2008 - ......)
  • MP05: (2011 - ......)

U/C


Mairie de Montrouge to Bagneux (2020): 1.9 km, 2 stations


Front Populaire to Maire d'Aubervilliers (2019): 2 stations


Saint Lazare to Mairie de Saint Ouen (2019): 5.5km, 4 stations

Preparatory work


Mairie des Lilas to Rosny-Bois-Perrier (2022): 5.4 km, 6 stations


Noisy - Champs to Pont de Sèvres (2022): 33 km, 20 stations
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Old June 17th, 2007, 09:37 PM   #157
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Nice photos, though the quality could have been better.

I love Paris though, and I love the French people's class, you can easily tell which lot are tourists!

I don't know why it took so long before a Paris Metro thread was made though.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 09:50 PM   #158
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Nice pics, PAris's metro is definately up there on my list. I liked the old lines which have a lot of character and the modern line 14 was excellent too. While its not the cleanest or most spacious it still has its character which I like. And in combination with the RER its a very good system for getting around.
btw the woman in pic 7 doesnt seem to happy
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Old June 17th, 2007, 10:05 PM   #159
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Nice photos, though the quality could have been better.

I love Paris though, and I love the French people's class, you can easily tell which lot are tourists!

I don't know why it took so long before a Paris Metro thread was made though.
No There was not a lot of tourist here because I was not in the tourist districts. I saw only three blond americans the 14th picture.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 10:19 PM   #160
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No it was not a lot of tourist her because I was not in the tourist districts. I saw only three blond americans the 14th picture.
That's who I was on about!

Tourists always do this: they either push on if they're European, or they stand near the door and get in everyones way without realising it, if they're American/Australian, the American/Australians then look around trying to find a seat, and then they spend the rest of the time staring at people, a lot of the time they don't sit down and just stand around. Latinos tend to be similar to the Europeans, yet they seem to always sing about something or laugh loudly, the Europeans are too 'cool' for that. they usually don't do it in a rude way but just seem interested/freaked out. The Europeans just talk loudly and not really care. Latinos tend to be similar to the Europeans, yet they seem to always sing about something or laugh loudly, the Europeans are too 'cool' for that. The Londoners are always the ones that stare at the ground and not make eye contact, or read a newspaper or a book. And the Londoners ones never talk loudly either...

This is of course all stereotyping, but it's mostly my experience...

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