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Old March 12th, 2011, 03:19 PM   #1901
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During autumn 2011.
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I always was interesting why end stations have several track and platform?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 07:57 PM   #1902
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Looking inside Flickr I saw this beautiful and unusual photo.

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Picture by Léonard de SERRES

See the underground bridge, this picture is on the line 2 but I don't know where it is, maybe Villiers.
Very interesting place!
I looked on carto.metro.free.fr and it not seems to be Villiers. However, where it can be? I saw on the map a similar possible place like this at Pere Lachaise. There are other undergound bridge at Paris metro, like this?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 08:46 PM   #1903
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It is Villiers.

I know it because the ceiling of line M3 is higher than usal in Paris.

When the double station (M2 / M3) was established, the plan was to send the train of line M3 on the tracks of line M2 (to Porte Dauphine). But the traffic was too heavy, so they made a loop terminus.

Later, they found it would be better to send line M3 to Porte de Champerret. As the 2 stations were at same level, they needed to lower (to dip ?) the tracks of line M3 to go below the M2.

So, when you visit this station, the ceilings are at same level, but not the tracks.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:56 PM   #1904
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It is Villiers.

I know it because the ceiling of line M3 is higher than usal in Paris.

When the double station (M2 / M3) was established, the plan was to send the train of line M3 on the tracks of line M2 (to Porte Dauphine). But the traffic was too heavy, so they made a loop terminus.

Later, they found it would be better to send line M3 to Porte de Champerret. As the 2 stations were at same level, they needed to lower (to dip ?) the tracks of line M3 to go below the M2.

So, when you visit this station, the ceilings are at same level, but not the tracks.
Any other pics of this station?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #1905
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Never mind, I just answered my own question lol
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Old March 13th, 2011, 11:26 PM   #1906
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and the Villiers loop it's used to something? Anyway I think that the loop should be at the same level with 2 line , because the 3 line was in the past at the same level with 2 line, or the loop was deepened like 3 line tunnel?

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Old March 13th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #1907
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Any other pics of this station?
I posted some pics of the station in august.
We can see the difference of ceiling height.

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Old March 14th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #1908
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Very interesting. Thanks
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Old March 14th, 2011, 11:37 AM   #1909
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Here you can see the loop (old terminus before the extension)



Line 3 (green) is crossing under line 2 (blue). When you ride on line 2 you can, if the timing is right, see the train running on line 3 underneath.
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Old March 14th, 2011, 08:20 PM   #1911
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@ Minato ku or any other Parisien: can (one of) you tell me when the current signage design was introduced for the Paris Métro? I'm referring to the current colours of the métro lines as used on the map and the various signs in and around stations, the typeface, and the overall design.
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Old March 14th, 2011, 08:56 PM   #1912
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Old March 14th, 2011, 09:00 PM   #1913
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Alargule - Mark Ovenden's book Paris Metro Style is a wonderful overview of the architecture and art of the network, and has a lengthy section on the typefaces, line colours and map designs.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Paris-Metro-.../dp/1854143220
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Hey, that's interesting. Thank you for the tip!
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Ok, I have a question that perhaps no one is really able to answer at the moment b/c the trains are not yet in service. But I really like how the MP 89 (and its counterparts in Chile, the NS 93 & the NS 04) has a very unique sound when it pulls out of the station. I've been very curious to see if the MP 05 will make the same type of sound when it leaves the station.
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Old March 15th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #1917
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Ok, I have a question that perhaps no one is really able to answer at the moment b/c the trains are not yet in service. But I really like how the MP 89 (and its counterparts in Chile, the NS 93 & the NS 04) has a very unique sound when it pulls out of the station. I've been very curious to see if the MP 05 will make the same type of sound when it leaves the station.
You can find some videos on the Net of the MP05 (try YouTube, DailyMotion, etc.)
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Ok, I have a question that perhaps no one is really able to answer at the moment b/c the trains are not yet in service. But I really like how the MP 89 (and its counterparts in Chile, the NS 93 & the NS 04) has a very unique sound when it pulls out of the station. I've been very curious to see if the MP 05 will make the same type of sound when it leaves the station.
Doubt they will make the same noise. The earlier trains you mention all use Alstom's traction package from that era which uses 3 phase AC traction motors.

The MP05 will I, beleive use the same traction package as used on the MF2000's which is based on newer technology, so will more than likely sound the same as those trains.
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You can find some videos on the Net of the MP05 (try YouTube, DailyMotion, etc.)
So far, I have not been able to find anything specific to my query. Just the two from youtube that have already been posted here.

The other site I will have to look at again.
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Doubt they will make the same noise. The earlier trains you mention all use Alstom's traction package from that era which uses 3 phase AC traction motors.

The MP05 will I, beleive use the same traction package as used on the MF2000's which is based on newer technology, so will more than likely sound the same as those trains.
Interesting, so maybe the MP05 ends up starting like the MF01. Hmmmm
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