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Old July 9th, 2012, 06:37 PM   #621
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What are the chances of a higher speed line between Vorarlberg and the rest of the country being built, mainly by straightening up the Arlberg railway and building more tunnels?
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Old July 9th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #622
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That would make sense for those going from Bregenz to Vienna, but of how many people are we talking there? I hardly see any demand for that service. But once Munich - Lindau is being electrified (should be around 2016) going from Bregenz to Vienna via Munich should be faster than via Innsbruck, yes. It's just the question who should operate this relation? I see DB doing Zurich - Bregenz - Munich, but there's no way ÖBB would do the same to get to Vienna.
There is no need for ÖBB to run a direct Bregenz - Wien train via München. Passengers going from Bregenz to Wien can just change trains in München, if that becomes the fastest route.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #623
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Really keen to see the new Salzburg Hauptbahnof. Was last there in 2010 and can recall the building works so will be nice to see the final product when I go there in October.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #624
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I heard a plan for a new Bosruck tunnel - any news about that?
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Old July 9th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #625
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I heard a plan for a new Bosruck tunnel - any news about that?

There are indeed plans, because upgrading the existing tunnel to new safety standars would basically mean building an new tunnel.

It is planned that the new tunnel will follow a different alignment which avoids the steep climb from Selzthal up to Ardning to ease freight traffic.
However, it's not yet fixed when orks will start - it's a matter of money....


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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:17 AM   #626
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An environmental impact assessment is already going on for the new tunnel, which I am sure has to be built not too far from today. No train traffic between Graz and Linz would be a massive shame, especially since the second tube of the street tunnel entered service some months ago.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:26 AM   #627
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Really keen to see the new Salzburg Hauptbahnof. Was last there in 2010 and can recall the building works so will be nice to see the final product when I go there in October.
Seconded. A real beauty. I'll be there in around a week and take pictures.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 12:33 AM   #628
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Vienna - Bratislava hl. st.(via Marchegg the long straight line north of the Danube) is going to be electrified until 2023 + a second track is laid. This should significantly reduce travel time.

German source: http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/O...lava-gesichert
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Old July 12th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #629
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[QUOTE=KingNick;93160503]Vienna - Bratislava hl. st.(via Marchegg the long straight line north of the Danube) is going to be electrified until 2023 + a second track is laid. This should significantly reduce travel time.

German source: http://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/O...lava-gesichert[/QUOTw

well, finally... upper railroad to VIE from BA is busy and it's also long stretch of straigth track. but 2023 ? eh, too late, isn't it ? but what i find more ineteresting is the propesed new track from gotzendrof to vienna via schechat. if there were some trains operating between both capitals on the southern line via gramatneusiedl going via schwechat, we'd have direct train connection between schwechat and bratislava. and that would be welcomed by many slovaks who flight from vienna.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #630
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Many really big railway projects are under construction right now or about to kick off here in Austria therefore money is kinda scarce for other projects. At least the line is being upgraded at all. An extension of the "Flughafenschnellbahn" via Wolfsthal to Bratislava would indeed be worth a thouht as well (there are actually already studies from the airport about that). Many Slovaks are departuring from VIE.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 07:51 PM   #631
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Many really big railway projects are under construction right now or about to kick off here in Austria therefore money is kinda scarce for other projects. At least the line is being upgraded at all. An extension of the "Flughafenschnellbahn" via Wolfsthal to Bratislava would indeed be worth a thouht as well (there are actually already studies from the airport about that). Many Slovaks are departuring from VIE.
prolongation of s7 from wolfsthal to bratislava-petrzalka is being hot topic for many years. schade, that'd would give great connection to schwechat. and as we say here - schwechat is the biggest slovak airport)))))
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Old July 12th, 2012, 10:40 PM   #632
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Yes indeed some big projects are going on, but its embarrassing that relvatively cheap projects with great value for each Euro spent are postponed beyond eternety. I mean 11 years for that relatively small project on an important rail corridor? Give me a break.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #633
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Important corridor? Maybe for regional service, but beyond that the connection to Bratislava does not serve any long distance connections. For regional service the current connection is sufficient. It's just that by 2023 everything will speed up a little.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 01:41 AM   #634
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Important corridor? Maybe for regional service, but beyond that the connection to Bratislava does not serve any long distance connections.
Is there any direct train between Austria and any other Slovak city than Bratislava? (like Trnava, Žilina or Košice)
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Is there any direct train between Austria and any other Slovak city than Bratislava? (like Trnava, Žilina or Košice)
Not to my knowledge.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #636
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state of connections through the iron curtain is shameful, 2+ decades after it fell

i mean, there is not a single direct train between budapest and venezia, for example
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In fact they have gotten much worse in recent years. ÖBB has killed direct connections Munich-Belgrade via Villach, enforcing unpopular and perilous change of trains. The number of direct trains to Zagreb will be reduced once again this winter. The direct route from Graz to MAribor has dwindled to near nothing. Ohter places are even worse. There is now no border-crossing train from Slovenia to Italy, or from Greece to Macedonia or Bulgaria anymore.
Instead we are supposed to celebrate railjets as if they were anything more than a relatively uncomfortable Intercity train and forget that they only go to Budapest, nowhere else in the former East.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #638
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Vienna - Bratislava hl. st.(via Marchegg the long straight line north of the Danube) is going to be electrified until 2023 + a second track is laid. This should significantly reduce travel time.

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Important corridor? Maybe for regional service, but beyond that the connection to Bratislava does not serve any long distance connections. For regional service the current connection is sufficient. It's just that by 2023 everything will speed up a little.
Perhaps it's not important corridor, because the railway infrastructure is not sufficient. There were IC trains from Košice to Vienna, but they were cancelled. Partly because reconstruction of Sudbahnhof and partly because there was simply no adequate infrastructure for them and the journey took too long. If the northern railway was electrified and double-tracked the "regional" connection between Bratislava and Vienna would improve and it would also make possible to establish direct connection of Vienna with the rest of Slovakia.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #639
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state of connections through the iron curtain is shameful, 2+ decades after it fell

i mean, there is not a single direct train between budapest and venezia, for example
Budapest - Venice isn't that bad, try to go from Ljubljana to Venice; you have to go via Villach (to stay on topic ), or you can walk 3.5 km from Nova Gorica to Gorizia Centrale.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #640
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Salzburg hbf, construction going on.

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