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Old February 13th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #821
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Old February 13th, 2013, 01:04 AM   #822
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why are they spending money on new stuff? those trains seem to work well, don't they? it's not like a very frequented line anyway
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Old February 13th, 2013, 01:17 AM   #823
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why are they spending money on new stuff? those trains seem to work well, don't they? it's not like a very frequented line anyway
Unless the line is being closed in the near future new equipment will eventually be needed. Those carriages and locomotives look to be at least 30 if not full 40 years old and stuff tends not to last forever. New equipment will probably be more economical to use (less power needed, easier to get spare parts etc) and might increase a ridership a bit as well.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 05:33 PM   #824
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why are they spending money on new stuff? those trains seem to work well, don't they? it's not like a very frequented line anyway
You can keep old equipment in use forever if you maintain it well. But maintenance does cost money. More modern equipment probably has lower maintenance and running costs. Accessibility probably played a role too.

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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:41 AM   #825
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Unless the line is being closed in the near future new equipment will eventually be needed. Those carriages and locomotives look to be at least 30 if not full 40 years old and stuff tends not to last forever. New equipment will probably be more economical to use (less power needed, easier to get spare parts etc) and might increase a ridership a bit as well.
Actually the locomotives are over 100 years old (!), with some major revisions in between. According to Wikipedia where I double checked that, they are among the oldest still regularly operating electrical locomotives in the world.

There are also 3 modern rail sets operating on that line which are about 20 years old.

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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:10 AM   #826
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I was at Vienna Central Station (Hauptbahnhof) today and noticed that there will be three tracks between platforms 8 and 9.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 04:46 AM   #827
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I was at Vienna Central Station (Hauptbahnhof) today and noticed that there will be three tracks between platforms 8 and 9.
Through track for freight trains and other not in service trains. There will be two of them; the second is at the southern end and already operational.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 04:41 AM   #828
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Just as against Germany and many other member states the EU Commission initiated a treaty violation lawsuit against Austria, claiming the way ÖBB is organized a non-discriminatory access to the railway infrastructure can not be guaranteed. However the ECJ dismissed the case, since the Commission failed to provide any concrete evidence to show that ÖBB‑Infrastruktur is not independent of ÖBB-Holding as regards its decision‑making arrangements. Same accounts for DB and DB Netz. Spain and Hungary however have been found guilty.

For those interested in the whole argumentation (just the last part called the action is relevant): http://curia.europa.eu/juris/documen...t=1&cid=120351
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Old March 11th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #829
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25min TV report about the construction of the Koralmtunnel:
http://tvthek.orf.at/programs/1296-Oesterreich-Bild (in German)


Für die Errichtung des Koralmtunnels der ÖBB zwischen der Steiermark und Kärnten ging vor kurzem eine der modernsten Tunnelbohrmaschinen der Welt in Betrieb. Sie misst zehn Meter im Durchmesser, ist 180 Meter lang und wiegt 2.000 Tonnen. Die Tunnelvortriebsmaschine wird von der Steiermark in Richtung Kärnten einen Vortrieb von 17 Kilometern machen müssen. Noch nie zuvor kam bei einem Tunnelbau in Österreich ein Bohrer zum Einsatz, der so eine lange Wegstrecke zurücklegen musste. Ein Österreich-Bild am Sonntag ist dieser Meisterleistung österreichischer Ingenieursbaukunst gewidmet. Gestaltung: Günter Schilhan, Kamera: Erhard Seid



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Old March 12th, 2013, 01:19 AM   #830
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it can be downloaded with softwares like HiDownlaod
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Old March 12th, 2013, 01:18 PM   #831
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Very interesting video, thanks! I wish my German was a bit better, though
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Old March 24th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #832
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Update for the Vienna Central Station - airport connection:

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Old April 10th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #833
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First ÖBB 1216 for the Praha - Wien - Graz service, that starts in December 2014:



Source: http://www.bahnforum.info/index.php?...single&ide=250

Public test rides are taking place as well, where everybody can get a glance of the new train:

17. April 2013

Wien Meidling 08:39
Breclav 09:45 - 10:20
Brno hl.n. 10:55 - 11:20
Ceska Trebova 12:30 - 12:31
Pardubice hl.n. 13:10 - 13:13
Praha hl.n. 14:18

Praha hl.n. 16:29
Olmouc hl.n. 18:41 - 18:43
Ostrava 19:40

18. April 2013

Bomumin 07:18
Ostrava hl.n. 07:25 - 07:27
Olmouc hl.n. 08:23 - 08:25
Praha hl.n. 10:39

Praha hl.n. 11:44
Pradubice hl.n. 12:42 - 12:44
Ceska Trebova 13:23 - 13:24
Brno hl.n. 14:25 - 14:30
Breclav 15:02 - 15:12
Wien Meidling 16:21

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Old April 10th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #834
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What is the track speed between both cities? Is it double track all the way?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #835
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To my knowledge Praha - Brno is upgraded for speeds up to 200 km/h on the Austrian side however we won't see more than 140 km/h till Wien and I don't know if there are any plans to speed things up. It's all double track though.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #836
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A pity they came up with a new loco instead of a new EMU!!! I think EMUs are quite the future of long-distance transportation.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #837
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A pity they came up with a new loco instead of a new EMU!!! I think EMUs are quite the future of long-distance transportation.
Well, long distance route a less-demanding in terms of traction, so it's not that important.
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Unless the line is being closed in the near future new equipment will eventually be needed. Those carriages and locomotives look to be at least 30 if not full 40 years old and stuff tends not to last forever. New equipment will probably be more economical to use (less power needed, easier to get spare parts etc) and might increase a ridership a bit as well.
True, but I wonder if much of that line's ridership is due to tourist appeal...

EDITED TO ADD: After spending some time on the Gotthard thread, I'm curious what's new on the Brenner base tunnel project?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #839
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True, but I wonder if much of that line's ridership is due to tourist appeal...
Could be, but that's also a valid reason to continue operating the line. Tourists are usually attracted to a railway line because it either particularly scenic or because it leads to some recreational facilities (mountain resorts, for example). The railway equipment itself is rarely an attraction in itself unless we are talking about purely tourist lines with steam engines and everything.
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After spending some time on the Gotthard thread, I'm curious what's new on the Brenner base tunnel project?
They are boring some access and exploratory tunnels.

Construction of the twin running tunnels has not started yet, with the exception of around 2 km of each on the southern side.

http://www.bbt-se.com/en/project/construction-progress/

But unlike the Fréjus base tunnel between Lyon and Turin, construction of this one seems more likely to me.
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