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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:01 PM   #1201
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How is it that American & Asian trains are rarely tagged but European trains get coated? Why is security so laxed over there...
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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:20 PM   #1202
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How is it that American & Asian trains are rarely tagged but European trains get coated? Why is security so laxed over there...
Because the european understanding of security is a bit different*. And it's not as if each and every train were tagged.
*a tag on a train is not really a big problem and cleaning is probably cheaper than hunting the 'artists'.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 06:22 PM   #1203
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Because the european understanding of security is a bit different*. And it's not as if each and every train were tagged.
*a tag on a train is not really a big problem and cleaning is probably cheaper than hunting the 'artists'.
True, but sometimes one wishes they would go Singapore on their arses. Pun intended.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 12:06 AM   #1204
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historic cars and motorcycles on the car-carrying train Wien-Verona:









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Old May 24th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #1205
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Austrian Railway once again offer a cheap summer railpass for all under 26:
http://www.oebb.at/de/Services/Neu_f...cket/index.jsp

The tickets costs 39 (under 20) or 59 EUR (under 26 years).
It is valid for unlimitied trips on ÖBB-trains in Austria (except night trains) from 6th july till 13th september. The ticket however is not valid between 3am and 8am on weekdays.

A Vorteilscard<26 (costs 19 EUR, everyone under 26 can buy it, gives 50% discount for ordinary tickets during 1 year) is however necessary to get the Sommerticket.
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Old May 27th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #1206
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Their offers for young people indeed are very attractive. I can only recommend them for cheap trips around the country on holidays!
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Old May 28th, 2015, 02:06 AM   #1207
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We always bought the summer pass and drove around Austria just for the lols. Coffee in Graz? Why not lets go and drive back in the evening. Great offer indeed.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:53 AM   #1208
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Old June 26th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #1209
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Wonder of the wonders in Graz

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New platform roof in Graz main train station.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 03:43 AM   #1210
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Is graz station completed now?
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Old June 27th, 2015, 03:46 AM   #1211
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Will graz need more platforms when the koralm tunnel opens in 2022
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Old June 27th, 2015, 11:51 AM   #1212
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Will graz need more platforms when the koralm tunnel opens in 2022
No.

One additional platform with 2 tracks was built during the current reconstruction. Now the station has 9 platform tracks (instead of 7), that will be sufficient also in the future.

BTW, the Koralmbahn (which will be opened in dec 2023, not 2022) does not necessarily increase platform capacity demand. There will be more trains, but then Graz will be only a short (3min or so)intermediate stop for most long-distance trains on their way from Vienna to Salzburg or Venice via Graz - Klagenfurt - Villach.
Now most trains terminate/commence at Graz and they are occupying platform tracks for a long time.

Increased demand for platform capacity is mainly due to plans for further improvements of local services.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 03:08 PM   #1213
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Will trains really run Vienna-Graz-Villach-Salzburg? That would be quite a roundabout way to travel, and though it might make sense to just connect some trains that would otherwise have to all terminate in Villach or so, even from Graz this will not be a very time-efficient way to get to Salzburg.
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Will trains really run Vienna-Graz-Villach-Salzburg? That would be quite a roundabout way to travel, and though it might make sense to just connect some trains that would otherwise have to all terminate in Villach or so, even from Graz this will not be a very time-efficient way to get to Salzburg.
It kind of would make sense though, if ÖBB has intentions to run Vienna - Graz IC trains in future as well. IC/EC trains are already running from Graz to Salzburg so you could make it one relation from Vienna via Graz, Klagenfurt, Bischofshofen to Salzburg. Not for the sake of going from Salzburg to Vienna, but say Mürzzuschlag to Salzburg. This would most likely also mean the factual end for the Ennstalbahn.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #1215
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Will trains really run Vienna-Graz-Villach-Salzburg? That would be quite a roundabout way to travel, and though it might make sense to just connect some trains that would otherwise have to all terminate in Villach or so, even from Graz this will not be a very time-efficient way to get to Salzburg.
It's not about time efficiency, but about efficient usage of rolling stock. Connecing the Klagenfurt-Villach-Salzburg line with the Wien-Graz-Villach line allows more efficient usage of rolling stock with less "dead" waiting time.

Travel time Graz-Salzburg will be just under 4 hrs, which is not faster than the line via Selzthal, but also not slower.
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Old June 28th, 2015, 06:55 AM   #1216
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Old June 28th, 2015, 11:18 AM   #1217
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It's not about time efficiency, but about efficient usage of rolling stock. Connecing the Klagenfurt-Villach-Salzburg line with the Wien-Graz-Villach line allows more efficient usage of rolling stock with less "dead" waiting time.

Travel time Graz-Salzburg will be just under 4 hrs, which is not faster than the line via Selzthal, but also not slower.
Danke, Genosse Nachalnik! I guessed as much about the rolling stock. 4 hours would be over 60 minutes faster than at the moment, i guess the Koralmbahn will really set new standards. It is a bit of madness though to replace the ICs via Selztal, which manages 4 hours to Salzburg while crawling through the mountains at a snail's pace with this much faster, much more roundabout connection. However the future connection will connect more important cities, while the ICs via Selztal seems to stop at every farmhouse along the way, not touching any larger town. I guess Selztal might be reduced to S-Bahn service, if they do not have some good lobby....
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Old June 29th, 2015, 12:11 AM   #1218
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Too bad they did not use the roof construction of Graz Hbf. in the new Wien Hbf(in bigger scale of course). Imo the "crumpled paper" roof in Vienna looks rather unappealing in comparison.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 10:59 AM   #1219
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I guess Selztal might be reduced to S-Bahn service, if they do not have some good lobby....
Any train from Graz to Innsbruck or Salzburg has to reverse in Selzthal: http://binged.it/1LDtrkJ

And during this time, they also offer connections to other lines.

Connections are also why all EuroCity and InterCity trains stop in Arth Goldau and Spiez.
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