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Old April 23rd, 2010, 06:50 PM   #201
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Indeed it's the opposite. You have just seen a few pics. The last loco was designed over 25 years ago, then they just purchased some Siemens ones.

In some places the state of the tracks starts to be way better than the rolling stock.

Sorry, sad but true.
You are absolutely right, however I must say the new paint scheme is really nice Just think of the old brown yellow scheme and how crappy that looked!
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Old June 17th, 2010, 06:08 PM   #202
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Old June 17th, 2010, 06:11 PM   #203
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Old June 19th, 2010, 01:05 PM   #204
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Loving the new SKM trains in Warsaw. The colour scheme is attractive and
eye-catching. Don't like the Arriva PCC trains though as they still look
outdated despite the new frontage and revamped interior. Still a long way to
bring Polish trains up to scratch.
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Old June 19th, 2010, 06:53 PM   #205
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Great to see those improvements in a cherish country!

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Old June 19th, 2010, 08:40 PM   #206
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Don't like the Arriva PCC trains though as they still look outdated despite the new frontage and revamped interior. Still a long way to
bring Polish trains up to scratch.
Actually Arriva is German company
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Old June 30th, 2010, 11:38 AM   #207
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Old June 30th, 2010, 11:39 AM   #208
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I am going to be flying into Warsaw's airport in 2012 and would like to know if the high speed link between the airport and the city centre is on schedule to be completed and open for use by the target deadline of summer 2011? I know that the rolling stock is due to be delivered for the new line long before it is open.
Are there any construction photos of the missing tunnel link between the existing line between Warsaw and Radom and the airport?
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 07:08 PM   #209
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I wouldn't call it a high speed link, it's just an ordinary railway link to the Okęcie Airport.
There were some problem with old forgotten underground oil tanks, but I don't know if it's still an issue.

Some photos from 13 june availble at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=635

I think that link will be completed on schedule (with some additional time ). But there are some other factors affecting construction process, like construction of S79 road etc. so it can be later (hope not).

As for now the only reliable rolling stock dedicated for this connection is an new EMU called Elf produced by Pesa, which was ordered by SKM Warsaw. There are at least two other operators that consider to use that link - Koleje Mazowieckie (more likely) and PKP Intercity (less likely).

There is also a posibility that some of the flights (cheap ones) will be handled at new (yet to be build) Modlin (near Warsaw) airport. It's planned to be opened on 2012. There is also need to build a new similar rail link (like Okęcie one) from airport to E-65 railway.

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Old July 2nd, 2010, 08:09 PM   #210
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We can't afford any delays to hold up the link between Warsaw Okęcie airport and the city centre as it is badly needed. The tunnel U/C in the link provided by Kebe (wherever that is - airport end or Służewiec end) looks to be going well using the cut and cover method. At least it's only the tunnel between Służewiec and the airport which needs building as the line between Warsaw city centre and Kraków is already electrified.
It's a shame the link will not be high speed but a predicted 15 mins for the entire journey between the airport and Warszawa Śródmeście is pretty good.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 01:17 AM   #211
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We can't afford any delays to hold up the link between Warsaw Okęcie airport and the city centre as it is badly needed. The tunnel U/C in the link provided by Kebe (wherever that is - airport end or Służewiec end) looks to be going well using the cut and cover method. At least it's only the tunnel between Służewiec and the airport which needs building as the line between Warsaw city centre and Kraków is already electrified.
It's a shame the link will not be high speed but a predicted 15 mins for the entire journey between the airport and Warszawa Śródmeście is pretty good.
It is not a high speed line because it's in the Warsaw's Rail Area (we call it WWK). Speed is often limited in city center and most of WWK area (in the city limits) up to 80km/h. There's no need and no posibility to go faster as this is still an urban rail which has dense stops. Okęcie is about olny 6km away from the city center, and rail connection is 12km with 6 stops (avg. 2km).

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...f0251cbcd2ee5b

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Old July 22nd, 2010, 11:18 PM   #212
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Some vid (in polish) about polish rail in KolejTV (Rail TV). This material includes reportage about link between Okęcie and Warsaw city center.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiJKkRszpZY
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Old July 24th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #213
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This is a clear example of why PKP (the state railway, esp. its administration) must simply go. Those grandpas are unable to understand basic problems. Look at the track numbering: such an upgrade would be an ideal moment to get rid of the idiotic "Peron" numbering (i.e. two tracks sharing the same number), and replace it with track numbers. But they simply didn't notice that...

Were safety issues addressed? I don't think so. It still seems that there are a lot of areas where one can hide behind, ideal for homeless bums to urinate.
I think that even more idiotic is the numbering itself, we have track 5 next to track 7 on platform 1, where the hell is the logic?

If they need to keep this platform numbering, why is it a bad idea to do it like this: platform 1, track 1&2??
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Old July 25th, 2010, 12:42 PM   #214
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I think that even more idiotic is the numbering itself, we have track 5 next to track 7 on platform 1, where the hell is the logic?

If they need to keep this platform numbering, why is it a bad idea to do it like this: platform 1, track 1&2??
Because it's still incompatible. Nobody uses platform numbering, but track numbering. Platform numbers can stay in small font (for Radio Maryja listeners to complain about )
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Old July 25th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #215
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LOL Main polish website of Arriva title is : Pociągi Arriva PCC - kolej XXI wieku Arriva trains PCC - railway of XXI century , yes its sclear visible , looks like this trains been used 30 if not 40 years ago in UK
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Old October 6th, 2010, 02:43 PM   #216
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Old October 6th, 2010, 09:01 PM   #217
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why's Peron?

I suppose it's not because of argentinians president or Evita.
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Old October 6th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #218
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Peron means platform and tor means track in Polish...and a paltform lies betweenn two tracks, even if I have never seen numbered platforms, only tracks.
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Old October 7th, 2010, 12:02 AM   #219
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who bought these new Elf trains?
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Old October 8th, 2010, 12:19 AM   #220
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Peron means platform and tor means track in Polish...and a paltform lies betweenn two tracks, even if I have never seen numbered platforms, only tracks.
Well, this is only in Poland so (at least that's what i experienced so far in the world) that we number platforms and not always tracks. At some stations yu cant find any info about tracks. Even anouncements are made with the platform number only. This is the peculiarity about polish railways. If there are two trains waiting at the same platform on the oposite tracks yu have to ask, which one is your train.
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