POLAND | Railways - Page 3

Perun · January 24th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuvvaci

IC trains are so nice. I liked them also. How are the locos?

IC's locos:

EP08

EP09

[photo by Marcin Purc / www.rail.phototrans.eu ]

[photo by Gigabyt / www.wgk.cal.pl ]

Siemens ES64U4/EU44

iambic peremeter · January 24th, 2009, 06:39 PM

ANAITPOL asked about crossing border:1 and 3 I don't know
2 Just the bogie is changed. The train goes to a big garage. The workers come to the first , the middle and the last compartment and they unscrew special screwdrivers on the floor.Than special tugger hoistes elevate the car. Polish bogie sticks out on the special automatic rail. Than the soviet one is telescoped.Than the workers screw the special screwdrivers on the floor and it is. And you can watch this show drinking beer. Additionaly the police and the Ukrainian's border guards go along the train.

RzgR Spijkenisse · January 25th, 2009, 11:17 PM

Does anyone have pictures from the direct EC between Praha and Warszawa? Interior and Extrior. Is there a change of the loc at the border?

karejeeta · January 26th, 2009, 02:16 AM

Any news on the connection with the airport in warsaw with the central station in wasraw??

Chris80678 · January 26th, 2009, 10:36 AM

The tender for construction of the rail link is expected to be announced very soon with construction expected to start in June of this year.
However, the actual link won't be ready until the middle of 2011

so until then the only connection between the airport and Warsaw ciy centre is taxis and buses. If only the metro could be extended to the airport but then there are no plans to build a spur from Ursynów to the airport

Kuvvaci · February 4th, 2009, 12:53 PM

very nice locos.. polish railways seems the most advanced in the new members of EU.

Elvenking · February 4th, 2009, 02:11 PM

There's still much to do. Old passenger cars from 70's are still common. Their condition is sometimes very bad. Also majority of railway stations is dirty and smells with fast-food and homeless people

PKP just doesn't have money for everything, they spend alot of it during rebuilding of most important tracks. I think it's matter of dozen or so years that most of stations will look as in the rest of EU.
On the other hand some people in PKP management seems to live still in socialistic times

They're lazy and unwilling to reform anything. Also you have to remember about overgrown Polish bureaucracy.

Kuvvaci · February 4th, 2009, 10:39 PM

maybe you are right. but it doesn't look like that. also, polish railways are better than all east europen countries including EU members. also poland has HSR project....

Elvenking · February 4th, 2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

polish railways are better than all east europen countries including EU members.

Yes, but it's not excuse. Poland looks towards west rather than east. Hopefully in 10 years time you should travel in most important lines with speed of standard European 160km/h

Now it's only on CMK line in central Poland and it's rather short (bit more than 200km long).

Trains are able to run up to 250km/h on this line (http://www.parlin.republika.pl/index1.html) but we do not have such fast trains and required ETCS system (fortunately it's going to be added shortly)

gramercy · February 4th, 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuvvaci

very nice locos.. polish railways seems the most advanced in the new members of EU.

everythings relative, look at the map posted above, plenty of 80kph lines will remain, even 2 decades from now

the fact of the matter is, (railroad) infrastructure is such a huge amount of investment, that its gonna take decades to make up for the decades of low investment; all around eastern europe

Kuvvaci · February 5th, 2009, 11:20 AM

okay, thank you for your posts guys...

Elvenking, it is nice that you are not saticificed with what you have now. And I am sure you have a bright future.

Misiek · February 5th, 2009, 01:28 PM

Some more movies:

Euro Night "Jan Kiepura" Warsaw-Brussels passing the station in Germany

Some Inter City train on CMK

Berlin-Warsaw Express

ED74

Misiek · February 5th, 2009, 01:36 PM

Modern Newag 19WE commuter train, able to speed up to 160 km/h

gramercy · February 5th, 2009, 04:37 PM

those seats are fuuugly

Kuvvaci · February 5th, 2009, 07:30 PM

wonderful train...

iambic peremeter · February 15th, 2009, 09:16 PM

we have no mercy for Polish Railways . We need the best!!!

ArtManDoo · February 16th, 2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Now it's only on CMK line in central Poland and it's rather short (bit more than 200km long).

Isn't Warszawa - Berlin express max speed 200km/h in Poland territory right now? Only 120?

asahi · February 16th, 2009, 05:04 PM

It's 160 km/h.

Elvenking · February 18th, 2009, 11:01 PM

Some photos

JoKo65 · February 19th, 2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvenking

[…]

Trains are able to run up to 250km/h on this line (http://www.parlin.republika.pl/index1.html) but we do not have such fast trains and required ETCS system (fortunately it's going to be added shortly)

Then buy such trains, like the Russians do it!

January 25th, 2009, 11:17 PM	#43
RzgR Spijkenisse Raised in Spijkenisse NL Join Date: May 2007 Location: Spijkenisse, Rotterdam Posts: 125 Likes (Received): 0	Does anyone have pictures from the direct EC between Praha and Warszawa? Interior and Extrior. Is there a change of the loc at the border? __________________ Broadcasting from a trainstation near you

February 4th, 2009, 12:53 PM	#46
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,049 Likes (Received): 29	very nice locos.. polish railways seems the most advanced in the new members of EU. __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

February 4th, 2009, 02:11 PM	#47
Elvenking Gentlemenel Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gdynia Posts: 3,607 Likes (Received): 167	There's still much to do. Old passenger cars from 70's are still common. Their condition is sometimes very bad. Also majority of railway stations is dirty and smells with fast-food and homeless people PKP just doesn't have money for everything, they spend alot of it during rebuilding of most important tracks. I think it's matter of dozen or so years that most of stations will look as in the rest of EU. On the other hand some people in PKP management seems to live still in socialistic times They're lazy and unwilling to reform anything. Also you have to remember about overgrown Polish bureaucracy. __________________ "A pan myślisz, że chaotyczne kombinacje efemerycznych pryncypiów są w stanie zdeterminować neutralną cywitatywę absolutnego relatywizmu immanentno-transcendentalnej solipsystycznej jaźni? Tak czy nie?! Gadaj pan!!!" Zapraszam do... Lizbony, Gdyni oraz Szwecji

February 4th, 2009, 10:39 PM	#48
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,049 Likes (Received): 29	maybe you are right. but it doesn't look like that. also, polish railways are better than all east europen countries including EU members. also poland has HSR project.... __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

February 5th, 2009, 11:20 AM	#51
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,049 Likes (Received): 29	okay, thank you for your posts guys... Elvenking, it is nice that you are not saticificed with what you have now. And I am sure you have a bright future. __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

January 24th, 2009, 06:39 PM	#42
iambic peremeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Marsonia Posts: 221 Likes (Received): 0	ANAITPOL asked about crossing border:1 and 3 I don't know 2 Just the bogie is changed. The train goes to a big garage. The workers come to the first , the middle and the last compartment and they unscrew special screwdrivers on the floor.Than special tugger hoistes elevate the car. Polish bogie sticks out on the special automatic rail. Than the soviet one is telescoped.Than the workers screw the special screwdrivers on the floor and it is. And you can watch this show drinking beer. Additionaly the police and the Ukrainian's border guards go along the train.

January 26th, 2009, 02:16 AM	#44
karejeeta tommy569 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 137 Likes (Received): 0	Any news on the connection with the airport in warsaw with the central station in wasraw??

January 26th, 2009, 10:36 AM	#45
Chris80678 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 323 Likes (Received): 0	The tender for construction of the rail link is expected to be announced very soon with construction expected to start in June of this year. However, the actual link won't be ready until the middle of 2011 so until then the only connection between the airport and Warsaw ciy centre is taxis and buses. If only the metro could be extended to the airport but then there are no plans to build a spur from Ursynów to the airport

February 5th, 2009, 01:28 PM	#52
Misiek Call me grizzly ;) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The CT of Warsaw Posts: 1,337 Likes (Received): 0	Some more movies: Euro Night "Jan Kiepura" Warsaw-Brussels passing the station in Germany Some Inter City train on CMK Berlin-Warsaw Express ED74

February 5th, 2009, 01:36 PM	#53
Misiek Call me grizzly ;) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The CT of Warsaw Posts: 1,337 Likes (Received): 0	Modern Newag 19WE commuter train, able to speed up to 160 km/h

February 5th, 2009, 04:37 PM	#54
gramercy spaghetti cat Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,904 Likes (Received): 159	those seats are fuuugly

February 5th, 2009, 07:30 PM	#55
Kuvvaci Strange User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 20,049 Likes (Received): 29	wonderful train... __________________ Turkey Railways Development /High Speed Rail Turkish Airports /Aviation

February 15th, 2009, 09:16 PM	#56
iambic peremeter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Marsonia Posts: 221 Likes (Received): 0	we have no mercy for Polish Railways . We need the best!!!

February 16th, 2009, 05:04 PM	#58
asahi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 345 Likes (Received): 31	It's 160 km/h.

February 18th, 2009, 11:01 PM	#59
Elvenking Gentlemenel Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gdynia Posts: 3,607 Likes (Received): 167	Some photos __________________ "A pan myślisz, że chaotyczne kombinacje efemerycznych pryncypiów są w stanie zdeterminować neutralną cywitatywę absolutnego relatywizmu immanentno-transcendentalnej solipsystycznej jaźni? Tak czy nie?! Gadaj pan!!!" Zapraszam do... Lizbony, Gdyni oraz Szwecji

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