POLAND | Railways - Page 4

Elvenking · February 19th, 2009, 03:13 PM

You know, that's bit expensive, we have crisis. IMO the most important is modernisation of some essential for our rail transport lines. That's in progress but it costs huge amount of $$$. There's no use in having high speed trains when most of lines have embarrasing speed limits like 120 or even 80km/h... There was also mentioned (in "Poland to build high-speed rail" thread) that we'll built special line (called "Y") connecting Warsaw with western Polish cities (Poznań, Wrocław); should be finished in 20's, which is actually very fast for introducing high speed railways from zero.

fuffi · February 21st, 2009, 09:05 PM

fuffi · February 21st, 2009, 09:11 PM

inside intercity train compartment

singing train ( very common here)

locat train of mazovia ( green and white colours)

another local train

intercity promo

graffitti attack on local old train

Micrav · February 21st, 2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Misiek

Modern Newag 19WE commuter train, able to speed up to 160 km/h

Beautiful train, it seems I missed it in Berlin. Seats are very interesting. At last an Eastern European made train that has a stylish Exterior AND Interior.
Super NEWAG! Congratulations to the designers!

vid11 · February 23rd, 2009, 04:07 PM

Czech Rep., Poland, Hungary, Slovakia - Central Europe...

michal_OMB · February 25th, 2009, 07:36 PM

yes, Poland it is Central Europe but it is detail

hYp · February 26th, 2009, 01:34 PM

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I don't get why train manufacturers (and the transportation companies that order them) have been installing those awful wannabe-seats in regional trains (and streetcars, and city busses, and...) for the last decade.

The seats are way too small and often facing anything but the direction of travel. Even in one-way vehicles, this seems to be in fashion at the moment: Seats are placed in "lounge"-settings instead of rows, sometimges even without seperations, but rather as a long bench.

Picture 1: Honestly, would you like to sit on those with anyone but you girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever on the seat next to you? Just try to place that guy's wife beside him and count the seconds until she falls off the bench...
People simply tend to get "wider", and yet we make seats narrower with every new train series.

Picture 2: This seems to be a regional train, which means that the average duration of travel might be around 30 minutes (or longer). Often, there are a few stops with a lot of boarding, at most stops only a small number of passengers get off (e.g. in suburban trains or those connecting cities to their hinterland).
So why install such a small number of seats and leave most of the space open for standing passengers? Why the huge doors? Why are there no handles to hold onto if you are forced to stand the entire 30 minutes of your comfortable train ride in such a seatless car?

I simply don't get it...

This seems to be a problem most european countries nowerdays.

karejeeta · February 27th, 2009, 11:57 PM

Is the 19we going to be used by PKP prewoz Regionalni?? Are they going to purchase the train???

karejeeta · February 28th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Also is PKP going to but any other trains for its regional devision to get rid of those yellow and blue ones and the old non modernized red ones maybe with the 19WE or the bombaridoer Talent or ED74??

ArtManDoo · March 2nd, 2009, 10:08 AM

Any information about PKP passenger coaches. I mean PKP is replacing loco hauled trains with DMU and EMU trains. Does anibody know what will happen with coaches taken out of service. Are they going to withrawn or sold?

I plan to visit Poland this year. Any information about snow condition? Is there some main lines in south Poland what remain snowy at least 3 weeks from now? I heared that north Czech got a lot of snow. Without snow everything is brown or gray and it's better to go in summer. Maby someone knows any web-sites where snow info could be found or webcams that show something useful about that?

Are there any passenger trains in Poland that are pulled with ST44 locos?

Elvenking · March 2nd, 2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtManDoo

(...)

I plan to visit Poland this year. Any information about snow condition? Is there some main lines in south Poland what remain snowy at least 3 weeks from now? I heared that north Czech got a lot of snow. Without snow everything is brown or gray and it's better to go in summer. Maby someone knows any web-sites where snow info could be found or webcams that show something useful about that?

Are there any passenger trains in Poland that are pulled with ST44 locos?

Well, weather is unpredictable, but winter ends and it doesn't look like there will snow any more. Of course mountains can be still snowy in higher parts

Unfortunately it's cold a bit by now.

ST44 are still in use for freight trains, but from what I know, no passanger trains are pulled by it, because it's typical freight loco, without heating links for coaches.
Some 44s were totally rebuild (incl General Electric engine) and are now one of the strongest and most modern freight locos in Europe called ST40

karejeeta · March 17th, 2009, 02:33 AM

Is the new locomative for Intercity running on regural lines?? The Hursaz is on what lines??

zergcerebrates · March 17th, 2009, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvenking

Well, weather is unpredictable, but winter ends and it doesn't look like there will snow any more. Of course mountains can be still snowy in higher parts

Unfortunately it's cold a bit by now.

ST44 are still in use for freight trains, but from what I know, no passanger trains are pulled by it, because it's typical freight loco, without heating links for coaches.
Some 44s were totally rebuild (incl General Electric engine) and are now one of the strongest and most modern freight locos in Europe called ST40

^ WOW that locomotive looks evil and its so cool looking!

Elvenking · March 17th, 2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karejeeta

Is the new locomative for Intercity running on regural lines?? The Hursaz is on what lines??

Husarz

(or If you want, just Taurus, that's original name of this series).

It's still on tests. Dunno when will be serving. By the end of 2010 we will have 10 of these - most propably on Berlin-Warszawa Express and other EC trains. Because of that, EP09 will be more common on all lines, they're still nice locos

gramercy · March 17th, 2009, 03:22 PM

thats a lamborghini-ish design
me likes

michal_OMB · March 25th, 2009, 04:12 PM

Train:

Timon91 · March 25th, 2009, 08:03 PM

The train to hell?

E2rdEm · March 25th, 2009, 08:55 PM

Well, what about bus line #666 in the same direction? http://studio.wp.pl/i,Linia-666-na-H...l?ticaid=17bbc

Elvenking · March 25th, 2009, 11:41 PM

Very nice-looking Berlin-Warszawa Express

vladorlando · March 26th, 2009, 12:23 AM

I m sorry but I was trip by train from Moscow to Vienna last summer. I d like to say this part of polish railway system is in terrible condition now .

Speed of train from Moscow to Brest was about 160-170 km/h and sometimes 180-200. From Torun to Check border not more 100-110 km/h and sometimes even 70-80 !!. Some rootes looks like without service 5-6 years or like after long war .

February 19th, 2009, 03:13 PM	#61
Elvenking Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gdynia Posts: 3,540 Likes (Received): 105	You know, that's bit expensive, we have crisis. IMO the most important is modernisation of some essential for our rail transport lines. That's in progress but it costs huge amount of $$$. There's no use in having high speed trains when most of lines have embarrasing speed limits like 120 or even 80km/h... There was also mentioned (in "Poland to build high-speed rail" thread) that we'll built special line (called "Y") connecting Warsaw with western Polish cities (Poznań, Wrocław); should be finished in 20's, which is actually very fast for introducing high speed railways from zero. __________________ "A pan myślisz, że chaotyczne kombinacje efemerycznych pryncypiów są w stanie zdeterminować neutralną cywitatywę absolutnego relatywizmu immanentno-transcendentalnej solipsystycznej jaźni? Tak czy nie?! Gadaj pan!!!" Zapraszam do... Lizbony, Gdyni oraz Szwecji

February 27th, 2009, 11:57 PM	#68
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E2rdEm prostownik Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wawa, Puławy Posts: 3,039 Likes (Received): 10	Well, what about bus line #666 in the same direction? http://studio.wp.pl/i,Linia-666-na-H...l?ticaid=17bbc __________________ II etap obwodnicy Puław (S12) - projekt jest gotowy od 12/2008. Nowa DŚU wydana w 10/2009. Nic, tylko budować! Znajdźcie pieniądze!

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fuffi BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 24 Likes (Received): 0	inside intercity train compartment singing train ( very common here) locat train of mazovia ( green and white colours) another local train intercity promo graffitti attack on local old train

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February 25th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#66
michal_OMB look here --> Join Date: May 2008 Location: Silesia/Poland Posts: 5,766 Likes (Received): 2	yes, Poland it is Central Europe but it is detail __________________ SSCMANIA

February 28th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#69
karejeeta tommy569 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 137 Likes (Received): 0	Also is PKP going to but any other trains for its regional devision to get rid of those yellow and blue ones and the old non modernized red ones maybe with the 19WE or the bombaridoer Talent or ED74??

March 2nd, 2009, 10:08 AM	#70
ArtManDoo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 186 Likes (Received): 1	Any information about PKP passenger coaches. I mean PKP is replacing loco hauled trains with DMU and EMU trains. Does anibody know what will happen with coaches taken out of service. Are they going to withrawn or sold? I plan to visit Poland this year. Any information about snow condition? Is there some main lines in south Poland what remain snowy at least 3 weeks from now? I heared that north Czech got a lot of snow. Without snow everything is brown or gray and it's better to go in summer. Maby someone knows any web-sites where snow info could be found or webcams that show something useful about that? Are there any passenger trains in Poland that are pulled with ST44 locos?

March 17th, 2009, 02:33 AM	#72
karejeeta tommy569 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 137 Likes (Received): 0	Is the new locomative for Intercity running on regural lines?? The Hursaz is on what lines??

March 17th, 2009, 03:22 PM	#75
gramercy spaghetti cat Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,752 Likes (Received): 108	thats a lamborghini-ish design me likes

March 25th, 2009, 11:41 PM	#79
Elvenking Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gdynia Posts: 3,540 Likes (Received): 105	Very nice-looking Berlin-Warszawa Express __________________ "A pan myślisz, że chaotyczne kombinacje efemerycznych pryncypiów są w stanie zdeterminować neutralną cywitatywę absolutnego relatywizmu immanentno-transcendentalnej solipsystycznej jaźni? Tak czy nie?! Gadaj pan!!!" Zapraszam do... Lizbony, Gdyni oraz Szwecji

March 26th, 2009, 12:23 AM	#80
vladorlando BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: orlando-moscow Posts: 845 Likes (Received): 1	I m sorry but I was trip by train from Moscow to Vienna last summer. I d like to say this part of polish railway system is in terrible condition now . Speed of train from Moscow to Brest was about 160-170 km/h and sometimes 180-200. From Torun to Check border not more 100-110 km/h and sometimes even 70-80 !!. Some rootes looks like without service 5-6 years or like after long war .

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