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Old December 17th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #1101
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That's not the point. Trip from Gdansk to Warsaw should take ~1,5h by train. And that would be optimal, and I bet every single train would be full. Also, it's from city centre to city centre, without any problems like @ airport, no traffic jams like when you're driving a car. Also costs are lower...
If you want travel time like that then you have to build a new dedicated HS line. It would probably be as popular as you say, but initial costs would be very high as well. Around 5-6 billion euros for that line alone (ca 15 million per km).
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Old December 18th, 2014, 12:45 PM   #1102
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Note: The ICE 2 circulated at 280 only pulling, and at 200 pushing with the problem of crosswinds. It is the problem of push-pull trains at high speeds.

The Poland High Speed Thread is on:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post119991572

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Old December 18th, 2014, 01:50 PM   #1103
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Question moved to other thread but I think that response here is also correct as it treats also about other lines.

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The maximum speed in Poland is 200 km/h until next year comes into operation ETCS 2 on line Warsaw-Zawiercie (Katowice) ?.
The maximum speed 200 km/h is now allowed on circa 90 km from Zawiercie to Olszamowice on CMK line. This line was for over 20 years cleared to 160 km/h but now it is modernised and thanks to ECTS level 1 200 km/h was allowed on almost ready section. When works will finish this speed will be from Zawiercie to Grodzisk Mazowiecki (roughly 222 km).

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The security system to 200 km/h is KPH / SHP ?.
For up to 160 km/h SHP over that speed it is either ETCS or ERTMS. CMK line from Zawiercie to Warszawa will have ETCS level 1 while from Warszawa to Gdańsk ERTMS level 2 will be installed. PKP PLK is also installing ERTMS on other lines with lower speeds - E20 from German Border through Poznań and Warszawa to Belarus Border, on E30 corridor from German Border through Legnica, Wrocław and up to Opole and on Warszawa - Koluszki - Łódź line. All of them are cleared for 160 km/h maximum speed (of course with some point speed restrictions).

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The lines served by the EIC Premium are generally 200 km/h, or there are only sections at this speed?, How many km are there in Poland to 200 km/h ?.
No, EIC Premium run on regular lines modernised or being modernised to various speeds. The Zawiercie - Grodzisk Mazowiecki corridor which serves Warszawa to Kraków, Katowice and Wrocław has now 200 km/h on approximate 90 km section but it will allow that speed on whole 222 km stretch when finished. This section has superb parameters and it is envisaged that in near future speeds may be raised even up to 250 km/h.

Remaining sections from Grodzisk to Warszawa and from Psary to Kraków are / will be cleared up to 150-160 km/h while from Zawiercie to Katowice 120 km/h is possible. CMK is also used by EIP on Warszawa - Wrocław corridor which diverge from that line near Koniecpol and go through Częstochowa Stradom and Opole. This section was modernised for 120 - 140 km/h speeds while Opole - Wrocław for some years already allows 160 km/h.

Regarding line from Warszawa to Gdańsk it is in process of modernisation which still isn’t fully completed but after it will be done 160 km/h will be possible on let say 80 % of the line. Some sections are modernised for 200 km/h operations but before this ERTMS level 2 still has to be finished and commissioned. But when this will be ready (approximately 2016) 200 km/h will be on circa 50 % of the line.

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Warsaw-Gdansk is 327 km, is it right ?. żWarsaw to Wroclaw?. żWarsaw to Kraków?
Warszawa Centralna - Gdańsk is 299 km
Warszawa Centralna - Kraków is 292 km
Warszawa Centralna- Katowice is 297 km
Warszawa Centralna -Wrocław is 427 km

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When entered service 19 trains Husarz ?, the first was in 2009, but how ?, year 2009/2011 ?.
PKP IC uses 10 Husarz locomotives delivered between 2009-2011. Due to lack ERTMS in cab equipment they are limited to 160 km/h.

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There are more EMUs to 200 km/h?
No
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Old December 18th, 2014, 02:59 PM   #1104
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Note: The ICE 2 circulated at 280 only pulling, and at 200 pushing with the problem of crosswinds. It is the problem of push-pull trains at high speeds.

The Poland High Speed Thread is on:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post119991572
The train will be slowed down to 200 km/h in push mode and heavy crosswinds, yes, but only in that case. Under normal circumstance Vmax is 250 km/h.
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Old December 19th, 2014, 06:40 PM   #1105
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Łódź Fabryczna U/C







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As a bonus: how the station will be integrated into the new city center

At the moment this is the concept based on urbanism. The final architectural form will be different, but the mass of the buildings the same.





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Old December 19th, 2014, 06:41 PM   #1106
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Not the freshest news, anyway:

Śląskie voivodship announces second direct award:

POLAND: Śląskie voivodship has announced that it intends to directly award national regional passenger train operator Przewozy Regionalne a contract to continue to operate local services which connect with other regions.

The contract is to run for three years from the December 2016 timetable change, and cover the following routes:

Katowice – Olkusz – Sędziszów – Kielce;
Częstochowa – Radomsko;
Gliwice – Kędzierzyn Koźle;
Gliwice – Pyskowice – Strzelce Opolskie – Opole;
Kędzierzyn Koźle – Racibórz;
Lubliniec – Kluczbork;
Wieluń Dąbrowa – Herby Nowe – Tarnowskie Góry;
Bielsko Biała – Wadowice – Kraków;
Katowice – Jaworzno Szczakowa – Kraków.
The services are currently operated by PR, after the voivodship’s own operator Koleje Śląskie was forced to pull out of a 2012 take-over of the routes following rolling stock shortages and other difficulties.

The announcement of the direct award to PR comes three months after the voivodship announced that it would directly award KŚ a contract to operate local services within the region from January 1 2015 to the end of 2025.
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Old December 19th, 2014, 06:45 PM   #1107
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Greater-Poland railways



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Old December 19th, 2014, 06:47 PM   #1108
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Renovation of the Wągrowiec railway station















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Old December 19th, 2014, 07:10 PM   #1109
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Renovation of Plock railway-bus station:






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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:15 PM   #1110
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Renders of the new Warsaw West station

















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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:20 PM   #1111
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Not complaining here. It is good that neglected West Station is going to be finaly rebuild but it is going to be more like train stop than train station
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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:32 PM   #1112
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Renders of new upgrades for Central Station in Warsaw:



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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:41 PM   #1113
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Dębica station modernisation

Works will start January 7th. Dębica is a town in South-Eastern Poland with 46.000 inhabitants.

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To chyba już oficjalna wizualizacja Dworca PKP. Przebudowa ruszy już 7 stycznia.
http://ziemiadebicka.pl/przebudowa-d...tycznia-2015r/


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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #1114
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Changes around Central Station in Warsaw in last 25 years:

Around 1990:


A year ago:
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Old December 20th, 2014, 06:54 PM   #1115
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Renders of new upgrades for Central Station in Warsaw:
So they are decided no to demolish this building?
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Old December 20th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #1116
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No! why would they?
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Old December 20th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #1117
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Opole train station modernisation

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Old December 20th, 2014, 07:14 PM   #1118
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There were some visions with two skyscrapers or something like that but I hope they forgot about it because it would be just like this new West Station or a shopping mall with train stop like Warszawa Wileńska and this new one in Poznań...
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Old December 20th, 2014, 07:19 PM   #1119
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Nowy Sącz station modernisation









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Rabka-Zdrój station opened after renovation





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