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Old September 17th, 2015, 04:19 PM   #1541
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New private railway terminal in Swarzędz near Poznań was opened.
Nothing spectacular, but I like how they painted building and the Traxx locomotive.
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Wczoraj w Swarzędzu koło Poznania został otwarty terminal firmy Clip. Dzisiaj tamtędy jechałem a tam stała bardzo ładnie pomalowana lokomotywa. Do tego budynek firmy też niczego sobie



















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Old September 17th, 2015, 04:48 PM   #1542
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I believe this is up to some specific date, I believe 10 years from the start of the contract, so maybe up till 2024. Same goes for international travel, EU agreement does not allow the trains to leave Poland for 10 years, so again 2024, and 2025 would be the earliest time before a Pendolino could go from Poland to some other EU country.

Hopefully PKP will be able to purchase more pendolino trains in the future to allow for different routes or international travel but I feel a train capable of 300+ would be a better option for international travel and not the current pendolinos.
teehee, then we might see them on Rail Baltica (if it gets built)
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:12 AM   #1543
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Old September 19th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #1544
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Old September 20th, 2015, 07:18 PM   #1545
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:00 PM   #1546
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Old September 21st, 2015, 02:40 AM   #1547
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Cabview ED250 Pendolino

Warszawa Zachodnia - Grodzisk Mazowiecki - CMK - Włoszczowa Północ - Koniecpol - Częstochowa Stradom - Opole Główne - Wrocław Główny



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Old September 21st, 2015, 01:31 PM   #1548
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It's great to see how Poland is modernising its railway infrastructure.
You have one of the best railway networks in Europe, in my opinion.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM   #1549
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It's great to see how Poland is modernising its railway infrastructure.
You have one of the best railway networks in Europe, in my opinion.
Let's not get carried away here.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 07:19 PM   #1550
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You have one of the best railway networks in Europe, in my opinion.
You're a funny guy
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Sad but true, never the less, following the topic, there's something interesting in the EU-Commission documents regarding the future of railway system development in our continent in the upcoming decades.



here's the document:

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/themes...ed_rail_en.pdf

It seems to be a sabotage, I wish I was wrong.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 09:33 AM   #1552
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Sad but true, never the less, following the topic, there's something interesting in the EU-Commission documents regarding the future of railway system development in our continent in the upcoming decades.



here's the document:

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/themes...ed_rail_en.pdf

It seems to be a sabotage, I wish I was wrong.
I don't see the sabotage. It's an old document, from 2008-2010, which shows the Y-line as it was planned back then with a possible completion time around 2020.
That plan was shelved, we won't get a Y-line until 2030-2035 at the earliest, but instead we'll get many more hundreds of kilometres of 140-200 km/h rails, and trains on CMK will reach 250 km/h by 2020. So instead of having a red Y on that map by 2020, well have a blue line from Gdańsk to Warszawa and a green one from Warszawa to Zawiercie. Maybe Warszawa-Poznań will also be blue by then.

I don't see the sabotage in that. I think it's perfect common sense that instead of building one absolutely great piece of infrastructure and letting everything else rot, that the government decided to bring as much as possible to an acceptable standard before going overboard. What's exactly the point in a travel from Białystok to Wrocław trip where the Warszawa-Wrocław bit only takes two hours, but to get to Warszawa from Białystok takes six hours?
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 02:35 AM   #1553
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What's exactly the point in a travel from Białystok to Wrocław trip where the Warszawa-Wrocław bit only takes two hours, but to get to Warszawa from Białystok takes six hours?
Warszawa - Bialystok in 6 hours??? Maybe by bike It was always between 2h20 and 3h till renovation kicked off . Soon it will be back I hope in less than 2.20h.
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 01:34 PM   #1554
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Warszawa - Bialystok in 6 hours??? Maybe by bike It was always between 2h20 and 3h till renovation kicked off . Soon it will be back I hope in less than 2.20h.
Bit of an exaggeration, but what good would it do to connect four cities with a state-of-the-art high speed line, and letting the rest of the network rot to third-world standard? From my perspective I didn't get Walkor's idea of "sabotage" and I hope he see this as an invitation to elaborate himself.

I for one, think it makes much more sense to raise CMK to 250 km/h, Warszawa-Gdańsk, Kraków, Katowice and Poznań to 200 km/h and all other main lines to minimum 160 km/h, and 200 km/h where possible. Local lines should be done to a minimum of 80 km/h, and 120-140 km/h where possible.

This can be done much cheaper and the entire country will benefit, instead of just those who live/work in Warszawa, Łódź, Kalisz, Poznań and Wrocław. It would look rather bad on Poland if in 2030 we would have a Y-line where one travels 350 km/h, while the rest of the rail network is in the same state as Katowice-Kraków nowadays.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #1555
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What's exactly the point in a travel from Białystok to Wrocław trip where the Warszawa-Wrocław bit only takes two hours, but to get to Warszawa from Białystok takes six hours?
If you referring to the pendolino from Warsaw to wroclaw route, then no, it does not take 2 hours to get to Wroclaw. 2 Hours from Warsaw is czestochowa, wroclaw is another 1:40 minutes away. In total the trip to Wroclaw takes 3 hours and around 40 minutes.
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Old September 24th, 2015, 11:51 AM   #1556
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Old September 25th, 2015, 01:18 AM   #1557
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TRAKO 2015: the Pesa Dart and Stadler Flirt, both produced in Poland, for the Polish railways:



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Old September 25th, 2015, 10:14 AM   #1558
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According to Stadler, 18 out of 20 Flirt3s are ready, while Pesa states 6 darts are finished, while 14 are in various state of construction. Pesa claims they will finish in time. Hopefully this is true.
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Old September 25th, 2015, 11:08 AM   #1559
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If you referring to the pendolino from Warsaw to wroclaw route, then no, it does not take 2 hours to get to Wroclaw. 2 Hours from Warsaw is czestochowa, wroclaw is another 1:40 minutes away. In total the trip to Wroclaw takes 3 hours and around 40 minutes.
I was referring to the shelved Y-line, brought up by Walkor as "sabotaged" which I think I only mentioned three or four times.

I'm still waiting for Walkor to explain the "sabotage" by the way.

And I fully agree with shelving the Y-line until further notice, in my opinion it's senseless to have a few cities connected with 350 km/h state of the art HSR while in some parts of the country average speed on IC rail doesn't exceed 50-60 km/h. Let get our main rail infrastructure between all major cities up to 120-200 km/h before we start spending loads of money on prestige. Once Lublin-Szczecin, Rzeszów-Poznań or Wrocław-Białystok can be done on the existing infrastructure in 5-6 hours, only then it's time to build expensive new infrastructure.

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Old September 25th, 2015, 09:50 PM   #1560
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I rode the pendolino from Warsaw to Krakow and even though it didn't always go at 200 km/h it was a thrill to ride...it felt like the future had arrived in some part.
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