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Old December 10th, 2016, 05:25 PM   #1941
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An ED250 Pendolino leaving for Krakow with the Warsaw skyline in the background:

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Old December 10th, 2016, 05:35 PM   #1942
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Yesterday marked a historic and sad day in Poland. It was the last day a passenger train connected the Western part of Germany with Poland. We saw the last voyage of the EuroNight Jan Kiepura train.

German Railways (DB Fernverkehr) and Polish Railway (PKP Intercity) sadely have decided to withdraw the Cologne-Warsaw sleeper train.
This is due to the fact that German Railways completely shuts down its sleeper train service (CityNightLine).
The Austrian Railways (ÖBB) will take over some routes and rebrand them as "NightJet". However, the Cologne-Warsaw is to be cancelled.
Such a train between West Germany and Poland/Russia has also operated since the beginning of the 20th century as "East-West-Express" train, surviving two World Wars and the Cold War.
In June 2004 the EuroNight Jan Kiepura train brand was relaunched due to Poland joining the European Union.
That train connected Brussels with Warsaw. It has also carried through cars from Brussels to Moscow and Minsk. The train was 11 cars long. 3 of them were sleeping cars Brussels-Warsaw.
Over time the terminal station of the Jan Kiepura train was moved from Brussels to Frankfurt/Main. Later in 2007 the train started in Amsterdam Centraal.
With the introduction of through cars Basel SBB - Warsaw/Moscow and Munich - Warsaw/Moscow, one could take a sleeping car on purely domestic German routes, incl. Frankfurt-Berlin. Cabotage!
Over the course of the last five years the through cars to Minsk and Warsaw were cut one by one.
In 2014 the Dutch section was cancelled, thus the train had to start in Oberhausen. During its last year of operation the route was shortened to just Cologne-Warsaw.
One week before its final voyage, I rode this train from Cologne to Warsaw for the last time. I've chosen to buy a single sleeper compartment.

Here are some meta info on the train, riding it last weekend:

Train: EuroNight EN 447
Name: EN Jan Kiepura
Departure from: Cologne, Germany (Köln Hbf)
Arrival: Warsaw, Poland (Warszawa Wschodnia)
Travel Class: Sleeping Car Compartment (Schlafwagen Single)
Price Rail Ticket: EUR 39 (Sparpreis Europa)
Price Supplement: EUR 112
Train Operator: DB Fernverkehr, PKP Intercity
Sleeping Car Operator: WARS
Travel Time: 12 hours 34 minutes
Distance: around 1144 km
Maximum speed: 200 km/h
Travel season: Early December 2016
Withdrawn: last ride on December 9, 2016
Registration Sleeping Car: PL-PKPIC 61 51 70-90 005-9 WLABmnouz
First Locomotive: 101 092-5 [Cologne - Berlin Wannsee]
Second Locomotive : 5 370 009 (1251 Husarz) [Berlin Wannsee - Warszawa Wschodnia]
Route: Düsseldorf, Dortmund, Hannover, Braunschweig, Magdeburg, Potsdam, Berlin, Frankfurt/Oder(Gr), Rzepin, Poznan, Kutno
Through Cars: CityNightLine EN 61447 Cologne-Dresden-Prague [between Cologne and Berlin Wannsee]



Here is the video:






Cologne Main Station: Our train will depart from track 2:





EuroNight Jan Kiepura train has arrived just after 11pm.
The train is composed of 11 cars. 3 of them travel from Cologne to Warsaw (my booked sleeping car, a CityNightLine couchette car and seating car).
Another 3 cars just go from Cologne and Dresden. Finally, 4 cars will be taken all the way to Prague (one sleeping car, two couchette cars and one Czech seating car).

These are some very old seating cars (Bimz), which will travel between Cologne and Dresden (these cars will go to the scrapping yard soon):





Entering the Polish sleeper car:







My single sleeper compartment (the cabin shows its age, its a bit dirty, but this is normal):











Double sleeper compartment:







Public Shower at the end of the car (however, as you can see, it is not operational):





EuroNight Jan Kiepura destination board:





Transiting Düsseldorf Hauptbahnhof:





At around 5am we have arrived at Berlin Wannsee station. The through cars Cologne-Warsaw are detached from the through cars Cologne-Prague.
From Monday to Saturday the EuroCity Berlin-Warswaw-Express cars are attached to the Cologne-Warsaw through cars. Hence, a restaurant car becomes available from Berlin Wannsee.
Normally, the Polish restaurant cars on this early service starts operating once it reaches Rzepin.
But today is Sunday. The early EuroCity train does not go on that day, hence, only our three cars travel alone from now on between Berlin Wannsee and Warszawa Wschodnia.

We arrived 20 minutes early at Berlin Main Station. A scheduled stop of 15 minutes was extended to 35 minutes.
It is not possible to (officially) book a ticket in the through cars Cologne-Warsaw from or to Berlin. Hence, no passengers get off or join the train here.
The German conductors (DB ERS) are guarding the train from the outside to not allow Berlin party folks to enter the train.

Berlin Main Station:













Leaving Berlin Hauptbahnhof:





Daylight has arrived near Frankfurt/Oder near the border between Germany and Poland:





Aisle of the Polish sleeping car:





EuroNight Jan Kiepura at Poznan Glowny railway station:









EuroNight Jan Kiepura is hauled by a PKP IC 5 370 009 electric locomotive between Berlin Wansee and Warszawa Wschodnia:





Riding the rails somewhere between Poznan and Warsaw; the line was only opened in 1921:





Locomotive, seen from the sleeper car (I do not know why the connecting door was open):









Stopping at Kolin railway station:







Polish Seating car Cologne - Warsaw:







Complementary breakfast in the sleeping car, served half an hour out of Warsaw:





Reaching Warszawa Zachodnia railway station:





Warszawa Centralna:





Crossing the Vistula River just east of Warszawa Centralna:




Passing Warszawa Stadion (PGE Narodowy):





Arrival of EuroNight Jan Kiepura train at the terminal station Warszawa Wschodnia:







Inside the newly-renovated Warszawa Wschodnia railway station:







Enjoy!
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Old December 10th, 2016, 05:57 PM   #1943
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As PKP seems to have a fleet of night coaches it is a shame they do not continue operations independently...
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Old December 10th, 2016, 08:10 PM   #1944
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It seems there was too few passengers to run this train as a separate connection. This year it was a part (group of cars) of the Cologne-Berlin-Prague and Berlin-Warsaw trains.

Without the Cologne-Prague train, is was impossible to keep this connection.

We may discuss why there was so few passengers - but it will not change anything.

I know that PKP IC has shortages of diner cars (so in the new timetable not even all the EIC will have one) - but I don't know anything about sleepers. Maybe someone else has an idea about this.

By the way, why did the Dutch railways resign from participating in this train?
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Old December 11th, 2016, 10:50 AM   #1945
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First day of new Łódź Fabryczna!


(photo by Mikołaj Lech)

First train:


(photo by Mateusz Walasek)

People waiting for it:


(photo by Mateusz Walasek)

Arrived:


(photo by Mateusz Walasek)


(photo by Grzegorz Struk)

A special train just after it - the real first one couldn't accommodate all the passengers from the station Łódź Widzew:



First train from Łódź Fabryczna:


(photo by Grzegorz Struk)

It's a historic moment for the city!
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Old December 11th, 2016, 08:46 PM   #1946
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Old December 11th, 2016, 10:27 PM   #1947
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Old December 12th, 2016, 02:51 AM   #1948
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Old December 12th, 2016, 02:44 PM   #1949
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Old December 12th, 2016, 10:00 PM   #1950
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Łódź Fabryczna rocks! impressive one
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Old December 24th, 2016, 11:16 PM   #1951
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POLAND: The European Investment Bank has agreed a €175m loan to infrastructure manager PKP PLK to fund modernisation of the 106 km Sadowne – Czyżew – Bialystok route, which will connect to the standard gauge line through the Baltic States which is being developed under the Rail Baltica project.

‘This is a project with a European dimension and a strong climate action focus’, said Vazil Hudák, EIB Vice-President responsible for Poland, on December 16. ‘It will result in better quality and higher use of passenger rail services and freight transport, generating significant energy savings and reductions in harmful emissions.’

A double-track bridge will be built over the River Bug, while a second track between Prostyń Bug and Małkinia will eliminate the only single-track section of the Warszawa – Białystok route. As well as increasing capacity, the modernisation will allow freight trains to run at 120 km/h and passenger trains at 160 km/h, shortening the journey between the capital and Białystok from 2 h 26 min to under 2 h.

Platforms will be modernised at 16 stations, with subways, improved passenger information systems and facilities for persons with reduced mobility.
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/i...ding-loan.html
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Old December 26th, 2016, 10:24 PM   #1952
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I don't know where Railway Gazette got the 2h 26 min from. It already takes 2h 9min to get from Warsaw to Bialystok on the fastest intercity train. That being said, even 2h hours is slow for a distance of 184 km.
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Old December 28th, 2016, 07:12 PM   #1953
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It doesnt matter. Atleast 200km/h should be standard on the main lines Warsaw-Gdańsk, Poznan-Wroclaw, line to Krakow, or Łódź etc... Let's be honest, ~120km/h in 2016 is a joke.
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Old December 30th, 2016, 03:54 PM   #1954
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It doesnt matter. Atleast 200km/h should be standard on the main lines Warsaw-Gdańsk, Poznan-Wroclaw, line to Krakow, or Łódź etc... Let's be honest, ~120km/h in 2016 is a joke.
It says 120 kmh for freight trains. Although I'd agree, the stated passenger speed (160 kmh) is still too slow, and that modern passenger services should be built to a 200 kmh standard.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 11:44 AM   #1955
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It says 120 kmh for freight trains. Although I'd agree, the stated passenger speed (160 kmh) is still too slow, and that modern passenger services should be built to a 200 kmh standard.
Built to 200 km/h, but the mentioned line is about to be rebuilt. That line goes through cities and other urban areas, there are lot of stops on it and you can't find a good long stretch to make it worth 200 km/h.
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Built to 200 km/h, but the mentioned line is about to be rebuilt. That line goes through cities and other urban areas, there are lot of stops on it and you can't find a good long stretch to make it worth 200 km/h.
Britain, Germany, Sweden, and -- yes -- Poland all have examples of lignes classiques rebuilt to a 200 kmh standard. A local might not need it, but a hypothetical Warsaw-Bialystok-Vilnius train will.
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Built to 200 km/h, but the mentioned line is about to be rebuilt. That line goes through cities and other urban areas, there are lot of stops on it and you can't find a good long stretch to make it worth 200 km/h.
From Gdańsk to Warsaw, there're like 7? (I'm not sure) stops, in small towns... FOR WHAT? To take 1 person? Such a nonsense...
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The biggest railway operator in the country, Przewozy Regionalne, is undergoing a rebranding. The new name is Polregio.

Their new painting scheme:

- on EMUs:


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=4716
(the rightmost one)

- on locomotives:


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=4746

The new painting will be being introduced successively, with the periodical technical checkups/renovations of the trains.

The new logo:



More paintings here: http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomo...ych-79334.html
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 10:22 PM   #1959
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Is this new painting design for real or this is just a 5 year old boy's joke? Smiling faces on locomotives? Ugly and very primitive. No mention that combinations of these colors is not a perfect choice either...
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 01:30 AM   #1960
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The best painting scheme in Przewozy Regionalne ever was this one:







It's still the most popular scheme in the company, although there was one after it, introduced year or two ago.

It didn't look best at locomotives - but on both old and modern EMUs it looked very well.

And it would fit perfectly to their new logo!

This new one looks indeed like a joke, but they really started using it.

And it's a bit better than the one introduced year or two ago, I have just mentioned - so called tiger:







The painting schemes used before are:

- predecessors of the red painting of the EMUs/DMUs:







- the painting of the carriages and locomotives inherited from the PKP (I am not sure about the double-decker one, if it wasn't introduced by Przewozy Regionalne after the division of the PKP):







- the painting schemes introduced by Przewozy Regionalne on carriages and locomotives before:













And that's probably not all.

So... up to a short time ago, they were very consistent about the painting of multiple units (probably all of their EMUs were red and gray) - which doesn't mean that the painting of EMUs and DMUs in Poland was consistent, because many of the units used by them is not their property, but the property of one of the voivodeships (provinces) of the country, each of which has its own painting scheme.

But the painting of locomotives and carriages (which are only a small part of the rolling stock of the company) was very inconsistent.

Now they are trying to unify it, but they do it so that they introduce even more inconsistency.
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