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Old March 17th, 2012, 07:39 AM   #601
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Thanks AltinD. I wasn't sure if it was only funds or as you said, a technicality. While it'd certainly make sense for them to purposely flood the site to avoid overpressuring the wall, it was only mentioned on one post explicitly and was easy to overlook as perhaps a joke. Or well, at least that's what I thought at least.

From the site side it looks like from other photos that there is a natural barrier of sand sandwiched between the concrete walls on each side (the outer marina wall and the ribbed coffer wall of the site). Any idea on what they'll do to strengthen the whole section? Wonder if they'll just do horizontal pipe braces like Infinity did? I can't see any place where they'd be able to outright thicken the wall without disrupting the "flow" of how things look. If as you said that once they can pour the foundation and the basement levels will have enough mass to support the wall / site on its own then that's great. Just gotta get to that point first.

I'm sure they'd want to have their nice foundation waterlogged for as little time as possible

No I kept watching the Burj and Infinity when that huge issue happened - remember it through the forums very well. Was, at first, just shocked to see flooding happen as I thought it had been an accident as opposed to well, on purpose. All makes sense now either way, thanks.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 12:45 PM   #602
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I wouldn't call it "as planned". Something certainly was oversight there. Come'on if they knew the walls need to be straightened they would do it during digging and no flooding would be necessary. Strangely enough they oversight that, even though it happened to the site next to it.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #603
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From the site side it looks like from other photos that there is a natural barrier of sand sandwiched between the concrete walls on each side (the outer marina wall and the ribbed coffer wall of the site). Any idea on what they'll do to strengthen the whole section? Wonder if they'll just do horizontal pipe braces like Infinity did? I can't see any place where they'd be able to outright thicken the wall without disrupting the "flow" of how things look.
They were doing the horizontal pipe braces, but in both cases it didn't work (which is understandable, since they are to counter the terrain pressure not the body of water one). They can't widen the natural part but they can reinforce it. It was done on the Infinity site but I think both planting steel/rebar and pouring concrete. I guess they will do something like that here as well.

My opinion is that the contractors are on the design stage of the reinforcement measures to be taken,


DISCLAIMER: All my opinions are based on logic and long-time observation and documenting of construction activities in Dubai, I do not have a civil engineering background. The closes to that was a university class of hydro-power plants dams and basins construction techniques
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Old March 18th, 2012, 11:04 AM   #604
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so maybe we should wait more 1 year to restart the project
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Old March 18th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #605
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We don't know, although the damage is not comparable to that of infinity site
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Old March 19th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #606
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Still highly doubt that they'd restart it "fast". Unless they can easily reinforce things, I'd still think a good 3 month+ delay, easy. Hopefully we are proved wrong.

@AltinD - Thanks for the observation . Oh I wasn't expecting a formally correct reply in terms of structural theory; it's nice to hear your suggestions though as to what may happen. Since 99% of us aren't in Dubai and can't see the site save through the kindness of posters on the forum, it's just nice to get an idea of the situation, that's all.

I've only taken a few architectural construction classes myself back in college and didn't quite finish up the degree. But hey, it was mostly wood-frame, steel, and concrete construction for smaller buildings and homes, not giant skycraper sites where they have unique challenges such as what happened here.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #607
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Hopefully Damac Heights will not have such stupid floor plans as they done for Ocean Heights. It would be disappointing too much!
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Old March 19th, 2012, 03:42 PM   #608
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Same Architects though (AEDAS), and their other designed towers (Marina Scape) have also strange floor plans. Having said that, I don't think floor plans were ever posted in this forum, or seen by the forumers elsewhere.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 01:59 PM   #609
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Old March 20th, 2012, 03:58 PM   #610
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We know and have seen the Ocean Height's floorplans since the begining, the year 2005 or 2006. I was talking about the floorplans of Damac Heights
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Old March 21st, 2012, 01:05 PM   #611
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It's pretty much a disaster too. How could an architect be so dumb!?...
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It looks like someone took the regular square tic-tac-toe floorplan and said "let's just stretch this!"... there we go! I'd have to see it closer but it looks like the ammentities toward the core are really tightly packed and look pretty tiny. Then again gauging by the size of the fittings, those "apartments" look pretty large for a couple people.

I think the curved sections look alright. The zig-zagging wing walls though on top and bottom look like they literally tried to conform the plan to the structural load first; as if they couldn't change the layout. Hopefully it works better in reality than the drawing shows.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 01:10 PM   #613
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They look fine to me? Also it's a bit hard to base an opinion on just one floor plan.....
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Old March 30th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #614
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30/March/2012

Damac Heights plot

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Oh, so it's all for the fishes and seagulls then
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damac needs the cowboy back to get this built
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But they started doing great (and still are) on all their other projects, when he left.
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Does water go out of the bottom?
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The water comes in from the bottom ... and the sides
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Damac's next focus appears to be the Lotus Towers project in the Business Bay.....
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