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Old October 7th, 2011, 11:02 PM   #2781
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There are no plans for north Belgrade bypass.
Again, I think there are. When Belgrade bypass reaches 100% completion it should from a motorway ring around the whole city.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #2782
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Again, I think there are. When Belgrade bypass reaches 100% completion it should from a motorway ring around the whole city.
You are free to think whatever you wish.
There are no such plans and it's a fact.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #2783
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Old October 8th, 2011, 02:36 AM   #2784
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You are free to think whatever you wish.
There are no such plans and it's a fact.
I am quite sure there are. :P
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Old October 8th, 2011, 02:57 AM   #2785
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I am quite sure there are. :P
Then present those plans, please.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 07:46 AM   #2786
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Then present those plans, please.
notice how the bypass crosses the river Dunav at the end. This bridge will be for when the bypass is made fully around the city.



ps. how do I resize images?
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Old October 8th, 2011, 08:43 AM   #2787
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I don't know if that is possible on this forum

however, one can link to a smaller size image, like this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Belgrade_bypass.jpg

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Old October 8th, 2011, 11:43 AM   #2788
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According to Serbia's infrastructure minister, negotiations are underway with investors from China, Azerbaijan & Turkey, regarding construction of two new sections of the Belgrade-Bar motorway (Corridor 11).

The sections in question are Obrenovac-Ub and Lajkovac-Ljig - with the value of work estimated at around ~220 million euros.




Meanwhile, work on Ub-Lajkovac section seems to be progressing well

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Old October 8th, 2011, 11:54 AM   #2789
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Clearly a bypass, not a ring-road. Which is quite logical since there is nothing that would warrant building a full-blown motorway ring on the other side of the danube. There's no city there, it's just fields and villages, there is absolutely no need for a motorway ring around them.
The city is exclusively on the southern side of the danube, and the ring roud goes around it and crosses the danube only to lead to pancevo, which also makes no sense since anything coming from the north and heading to pancevo would still go either through the city and over the Pancevo Bridge or over the Zemun-Borca Bridge and then to Pancevo which would be faster then going through the city to the bypass or going all the way around the other (wrong) side of the city.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 12:03 PM   #2790
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Ub - Lajkovac section, Belgrade-Bar motorway:

























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Old October 8th, 2011, 12:10 PM   #2791
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New tenders are out, for E-75 mwy south of Grdelica (6 km + 4.5 km), and for two tunnels (1.1 km & 1.8 km).
http://www.koridor10.rs/tender.php?mod=tender&id=1112

Tenders closing date: 15.12.2011
Construction period: 2 years for roads & bridges, 2 1/2 years for tunnels
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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:12 PM   #2792
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notice how the bypass crosses the river Dunav at the end. This bridge will be for when the bypass is made fully around the city.
Notice how there is no north bypass that would connect BG-Pančevo and BG-NS motorways and thus complete the ring around the city.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:17 PM   #2793
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which also makes no sense since anything coming from the north and heading to pancevo would still go either through the city and over the Pancevo Bridge or over the Zemun-Borca Bridge and then to Pancevo which would be faster then going through the city to the bypass or going all the way around the other (wrong) side of the city.
You know, the bypass is not made only for those "coming from the north and heading to Pančevo".
Besides, transit traffic can be banned from the city and then all truck will have to use the bypass, as it is usual practice everywhere in the world.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:21 PM   #2794
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There are numerous ring roads in the world that form no complete ring. Prague and Budapest are examples. There is no real distinction between a ring road and a bypass. These names often grew historically. I'd say a road that forms half or less could be called a bypass, and more complete (¾ for instance) could be called ring roads. It's just personal taste or regional habit.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #2795
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It's a matter of simple geometry. Ring is a complete circular shape.
Prague and Budapest have plans and are building their bypass motorways to make full circle around their respective cities, and therefore have reason to call them (incomplete) ring roads. In case of Belgrade there are no such plans.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 06:46 PM   #2796
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It does not need to complete full circle, to be called a "Ring Road".
The rules of geometry are not strictly followed, when the roads got named.
Some people may called it a ring road, even if only resembles a part of a circle.

There is already an Old Ring Road (Stari Kru˛ni Put) 1+1, that is much shorter than a Belgrade Bypass mwy that is u/c.

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Old October 8th, 2011, 07:03 PM   #2797
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It does not need to complete full circle, to be called a "Ring Road".
The rules of geometry are not strictly followed, when the roads got named.
Some people may called it a ring road, even if only resembles a part of a circle.
It doesn't have to be anything to be called something.
I may call my car Porsche but it's still a Fiat

So let's put an end to this discussion. Call it whatever you want. I just wanted to clarify the facts for people reading this thread who might get confused by the misnomer "ring road".

Even in Serbia we call it "obilaznica" which translates to English as "bypass", so at least let's be consistent, ok?

Živeli!
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Old October 8th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #2798
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The Belgrade-Bar motorway is progressing good...

Thanks CrazySerb for the pics.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #2799
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@ CrazySerb: who is the contractor for Ub - Lajkovac?
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Old October 8th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #2800
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The same consortium of domestic firms that carried out the work on Novi Sad - Horgos motorway. With all but 5km of that 108km stretch completed, we expect them to seriously instensify work on Ub-Lajkovac, allowing it to open on schedule sometime during Spring 2012.
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