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Old November 4th, 2011, 11:23 AM   #2941
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I really can't understand the need for the expressway really since there will be a full-profile motorway connecting the same cities.
The expressway is an older project, but pay attention that it's not supposed to connect the same cities like the motorway will.

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The motorway is planned for Pancevo - Vrsac - RO border. That's not the same road as Novi Sad - Zrenjanin - Jimbolia - Timisoara.
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That is nonsense: 162 km long expressway for 40 mil. euro including one pretty long tunnel?
At least one zero is missing, probably even more.
Fur sure there was a mistake, 400 mil. euro more likely to be the right cost.
Anyway, there is another mistake in the video simulation: canal DTD instead of the canal Bega (Begej).
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Old November 4th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #2942
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And there will be another good conection Serbia-Romania via the northwestern corner of Bulgaria, when Danube Bridge 2 at Vidin-Calafat opens.

Are there any plans to upgrade the road leading towards Negotin? It will serve both border-crossings - At Djerdap 2, and at Vidin-Calafat via Bregovo.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #2943
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Are there any plans to upgrade the road leading towards Negotin? It will serve both border-crossings - At Djerdap 2, and at Vidin-Calafat via Bregovo.
There are plans for a motorway or perhaps an expressway connecting Paraćin on corridor 10 and Zaječar. I guess the logical extension from there would be to connect with Bulgaria and Romania some day.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 03:39 PM   #2944
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I really can't understand the need for the expressway really since there will be a full-profile motorway connecting the same cities.
I think it's more about connecting Novi Sad with Croatia/Bosnia and Zrenjanin. It makes sense to continue to Romania then.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #2945
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plus the "Banatska magistrala" won´t be a new road.

It would be an upgrade of existing roads, the section of Novi Sad to Zrenjanin already has a motorway style routing, so on that part of the highway its only necessary to renew the pavement and to build intersections plus possibly a second carriageway.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 05:42 PM   #2946
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plus the "Banatska magistrala" won´t be a new road.

It would be an upgrade of existing roads, the section of Novi Sad to Zrenjanin already has a motorway style routing, so on that part of the highway its only necessary to renew the pavement and to build intersections plus possibly a second carriageway.
I've driven on road Timisoara-Jimbolia-Zrenjanin-Novi Sad one year ago. I know then, parts of the road were under construction, pavement was replaced I think.

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Old November 4th, 2011, 06:39 PM   #2947
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Old November 4th, 2011, 07:00 PM   #2948
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Timisoara-Belgrade highway, on the government table

Source: Money.ro | Published: November 4, 2011, 5:39 p.m. | Updated: November 4, 2011, 5:56 p.m.


PM Emil Boc has met with his Serbian counterpart Mirko Cvetkovic, and among the topics of discussion featured construction of a highway between the two countries.

"I instructed ministries to explore this opportunity. Transport Minister will pay a visit to Serbia in the period ahead, "said Boc.

The idea of ​​a highway Belgrade-Timisoara is older, Bozidar Delic Serbian Deputy making a proposal to that effect just last year. And then, Boc said he welcomed the proposal and the proposal will be submitted to the Serbian Government. Three years ago, to convey the idea of ​​a regional highway, linking north eastern Serbia, south-western Romania and Hungary, the Serbian proposal advanced. But talks have not progressed.

Route road Timisoara-Belgrade-Jimbolia has a length of 178 kilometers. If you follow this route highway (which is not in a straight line), the Romanian side would have to build around 50 km, after a rough estimate. At a cost of 3.8 million per km, in the lowland area, according to the actual cost of the Ministry of Transportation standards, this piece of highway should cost about 190 million euros.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 07:40 PM   #2949
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It's great that something is finally happening on this front, at least on the political level.


Construction of Belgrade's motorway ring-road seems to have intensified...after a period of foot-dragging, looks live they've finally changed gears

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Old November 4th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #2950
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The motorway is planned for Pancevo - Vrsac - RO border. That's not the same road as Novi Sad - Zrenjanin - Jimbolia - Timisoara.
Motorways is planned connecting Beograd-Pancevo-Vrsac-RO and expresway (motorway without hard shoulders) connecting motorway Belgrade-Zagreb (aybe in some other stages further south toward Sabac and Srpska) with Novi Sad-Zrenjanin-RO.
Two different projects.
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Anyway, there is another mistake in the video simulation: canal DTD instead of the canal Bega (Begej).
That is not mistake canal Begej is part of DTD system.

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And there will be another good conection Serbia-Romania via the northwestern corner of Bulgaria, when Danube Bridge 2 at Vidin-Calafat opens.
That is not so good alternative if compared with those two motorway+expressway projects.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 08:25 PM   #2951
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What route is this "Route road Timisoara-Belgrade-Jimbolia "
Is this mistake?
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Old November 4th, 2011, 08:52 PM   #2952
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It's just a journalistic presumtive route for the purpose of calculating the possible costs for the Romanian section.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 09:33 PM   #2953
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That is not so good alternative if compared with those two motorway+expressway projects.
Depending on the destination you want to reach in Romania. If you are heading towards Bucurest, the two motorway+expressway routes will lead you west of Carpati mountains, then you will have to cross them, and still there isn't such a motorway there. If you reach Craiova (no matter through Djerdap 2 or Vidin-Calafat bridge), you will be east of Carpati mountains and your travel towards Bucurest will be quite easier.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #2954
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That is not mistake canal Begej is part of DTD system.
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Canal Bega (Begej) could be part of the DTD system in Serbia, but for sure it isn't in Romania. So, from Zrenjanin towards Timisoara, the name of the canal should be Bega and not DTD, as it appears in that video simulation.
This was my comment about.

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What route is this "Route road Timisoara-Belgrade-Jimbolia "
Is this mistake?
I believe the order Timisoara-Jimbolia-Belgrade was inverted due to the automatic translation into Timisoara-Belgrade-Jimbolia.
Anyway, I hope this route it's just a joke, Deta and Vrsac being a must.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 10:37 PM   #2955
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Something interesting....Google-translated:

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Prehistory of the Corridor 10

The route of Corridor 10, near Vranje and Bujanovac, archaeologists discovered traces of prehistoric life, from the Neolithic settlements and objects for everyday use, utensils, tools, pieces. It is the largest so far found a locality with traces of prehistoric times.

The experts of the Archaeological Institute and the Belgrade Faculty of Philosophy is a company engaged Corridors Serbia, prior to the construction of Corridor, the protection of valuable archaeological sites.



Houses made ​​of wood, covered with mud, with one or two rooms, about ten meters long. Housing Gumnište horizons at the site.



"Here they are the remains of a Neolithic settlement," said prof. Dr. Slavisa Peric, Director of the Archaeological Institute, "had a good organization, an urban solution, the houses were placed in a row."

Stone Age, Neolithic Age, the period of 5700th the 4200th BC. Fifty experts dig, take pictures, draw, record, peru objects for everyday use, pottery, tools, pieces. It helps them 200.



The motive for some of the research work for other salaries, but they all work very carefully and devotedly.

The works are spreading and Čaršija stories about gold coins or bullion, jeeps and aircraft. No one has seen them, but they all heard.



All that they ask about hidden treasure, will be disappointed, because this site will find jars with gold.

"We are located at the site of the New Stone Age," explains Professor. Dr. Slavisa Peric, Director of the Archaeological Institute. "It is still far from the gold."

However, what has been discovered, of gold is valuable for scientists, archeologists, culturologist. The largest area ever with traces of prehistoric times. Archaeological work funded enterprise Corridors Serbia. After protection of 33 sites in the area of Bujanovac to Leskovac, will be built ten Corridor.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 04:18 AM   #2956
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Depending on the destination you want to reach in Romania. If you are heading towards Bucurest, the two motorway+expressway routes will lead you west of Carpati mountains, then you will have to cross them, and still there isn't such a motorway there. If you reach Craiova (no matter through Djerdap 2 or Vidin-Calafat bridge), you will be east of Carpati mountains and your travel towards Bucurest will be quite easier.
so it is not alternative as I said it leads in other direction
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Canal Bega (Begej) could be part of the DTD system in Serbia, but for sure it isn't in Romania. So, from Zrenjanin towards Timisoara, the name of the canal should be Bega and not DTD, as it appears in that video simulation.
This was my comment about.
trough whole Serbia it is DTD
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Old November 6th, 2011, 10:01 AM   #2957
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There are plans for a motorway or perhaps an expressway connecting Paraćin on corridor 10 and Zaječar. I guess the logical extension from there would be to connect with Bulgaria and Romania some day.
I am from Paracin myself. We would not mind having a new motorway to Zajecar, but I am afraid there could be a more important priority such as Belgrade- Montenegro. I would like to see Belgrade - Timisoara before I see Paracin-Zajecar. I am pro Romanian.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 07:40 PM   #2958
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11/7/2011 4:24:00 PM
Tadic tours works on Corridor 11

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LAJKOVAC - Serbian President Boris Tadic toured works on Corridor 11, the Ub-Lajkovac section, on Monday, and stated that he believes that in 2014 Serbia will have a much more developed road infrastructure than today.

“There is no room for economic development of central Serbia without modern infrastructure,” Tadic said, and expressed expectation that funds will be provided soon for the next highway section towards Cacak.

According to Tadic, the construction of each of the four sections from Belgrade to Cacak will need two - two and a half years.

These sections are to be financed by both European loans and international agreements in order to avoid over-indebtedness and jeopardy of the macroeconomic stability.

“Certain states have built highways by means of a public-private partnership and today they are on the verge of bankruptcy. We have opted for another model of financing which will not strain our finances,” Tadic said.

Tadic expressed hope that Corridor 11 will be put on the list of European corridors considering its importance for the international traffic, given that one of its sections will go to the border with Montenegro, while another one will pass near Visegrad to the border with Bosnia-Herzegovina.

When asked why the works on this section are late, Tadic explained that it was crucial to engage domestic companies in construction of Corridor 10 and 11 and that therefore works were delayed.

“Today the dynamics of works is better than ever. I used to disagree with Infrastructure Minister Mrkonjic over the deadlines he set, but now I see that this was his way to speed up the works,” Tadic explained.

According to Director of Putevi Uzice Milan Bojovic the works on the Ub-Lajkovac section are planned to be completed in a year. The project is worth eight billion and 652 million dinars and realized by a consortium of Serbian companies, among which Putevi Uzice and Planum are the largest.

The works were launched late in 2010, and the contractors say that one of the reasons for the delay is the expropriation problem which was resolved in the meantime.

Corridor 11, which will connect Belgrade and Cacak, and then be connected with Corridor 10, Montenegro and Bosnia-Herzegovina, is divided into four sections: Belgrade-Obrenovac (25 km), Obrenovac-Ub (27 km), Lajkovac-Ljig (25 km) and Ljig-Cacak (50 km).






















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Old November 7th, 2011, 08:07 PM   #2959
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World Bank: Serbia must speed up Corridor 10 construction

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Serbia should pace up the construction of the Corridor 10 section connecting Nis and Bulgarian border, says Baher El Hifnawi, the head of the World Bank program team for the Balkans. Baher El-Hifnawi notes that the east leg of the Corridor 10 will not be completed in the planned period, April 2012. Therefore, the World Bank will try to influence the contractors to speed up the construction works.

Serbian national road company Putevi Srbije is in charge for the construction, but the World Bank is the one that finances a great part of the works. Serbia admits that there has been a delay in the construction, citing problems with the main contractor Austrian Alpine and some Serbian households as the key reasons.
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Construction speed up of E-80 motorway is a must! They should also concentrate on the southern part of E-75 as well as the Y Krak. And yes, how could I forget the Belgrade bypass...
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