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Old September 15th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #4221
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Yes, there is new border cross near Negotin, and since it was opened, im starting to see more Romanians families buying in local supermarkets, cause i think its cheaper, also road Negotin-Zajecar is not in good shape, but if i tell that in recent years me and my family when we drive to Belgrade almost always go via Zajecar/Paracin and then highway, because u get quicker, and the most important road is much safer then
Djerdap, where rocks are falling down, and where u have on one side Danube, and on other mountains and hills But again in last 2 yrs i also go via iron gate, because highway becomed very expensive.
Also good thing on Djerdap, is the amount of trafic, its very low, and almost every car i see there is Romanian or Italian registration.

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Old September 15th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #4222
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According to latest media reports, Serbia's government is in an advanced stage of negotiations with three Chinese firms that have expressed serious interest in building two sections of Belgrade-Bar (Corridor 11) motorway - Obrenovac-Ub and Lajkovac-Ljig, about 50km in lenght with an estimated cost of ~300 million euros.

Should these negotiations be successful, work could begin before year's end - deadline for completion would be about 40 months.



Also, regarding the link between Belgrade & Obrenovac, it has been now been confirmed that the left riverbank option has been chosen - a new bridge across Sava river will have to be built.

Two options that were being considered:


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Old September 15th, 2012, 09:32 PM   #4223
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They also have to cross the borders twice. SRB/BG-BG/RO.
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Old September 15th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #4224
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Nis-Dimitrovgrad motorway:



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Old September 15th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #4225
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Belgrade's new Danube bridge:







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Old September 15th, 2012, 10:06 PM   #4226
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Motorway through Belgrade:



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Old September 15th, 2012, 10:12 PM   #4227
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Work seems to have once again intensified on Belgrade's motorway bypass:


























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Old September 16th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #4228
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You tell me that if I avoid all possible highways, the total cost will drop. I knew.

I also drove the Iron Gates gorge (Turnu Severin - Veliko Gradiste) and it took me a lot of time, as it has 145km of curvaceous 1+1 road.

The Zajecar - Paracin corridor has 90km (rehabilitated and having 2+1 sections) and is less curving than Iron Gates.

Routes comparison, if you go by Zajecar:
You drive replace 55km of mountain road with 55 km of highway by Zajecar - Paracin -> you win 1 hour or more.
You drive 30 km more on Paracin - Belgrade highway -> you lose 15 minutes (at 120km/h)
You cross one more border (Romania - Bulgaria with toll station) -> you lose 5 - 10 minutes (similar to simplified border control and toll station at Giurgiu - Ruse)

Estimated gain: 35min or more
I drove both roads. The Iron Gates doesn't have real hairpin curves where you have to slow down to 30-40 km/h, most of the curves there are passable at 70-80km/h. There are also very few villages on the road. On the road through Zajecar you have to pass 2 mountain passes each at about 500m altitude, Vrska Cuka and Cestobrodica. So time economy isn't that big on Zajecar-Paracin compared to Iron Gates and the costs are 15-20 euros higher, depending on the toll for the bridge.
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Old September 17th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #4229
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A meeting was held earlier today between Serbia's President and Chinese partners interested in various infrastructure projects in Serbia - Corridor 11 and Pojate-Preljina motorway among them:

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BELGRADE – Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic conferred Monday with a delegation of China Development Bank about financing the construction of Corridor 11 through a concession agreement and other investments in Serbia in which the partners from the world's most populous country are interested.

The Chinese delegation was headed by Lei Yufeng, and the officials also discussed the possibility that China finances arranging the right bank of the Danube, opening a duty-free zone, and possible investments into Serbian agriculture and construction of hydro power plant Djerdap 3, the Serbian presidential office released in a statement.

Serbian Minister of Transport Milutin Mrkonjic stated earlier that the Chinese partners are especially interested in sections of highway from Belgrade to Cacak which have not been started yet - the section from Belgrade to Obrenovac (27 km), from Obrenovac to Ub (25km), from Lajkovac to Ljig (25 km) and from Preljina to Cacak, which all totals around 100 km.

The Chinese partners are also interested in the construction of the transverse highway Pojate-Preljina, which is around 100 km long and whose construction would cost between EUR 400 and 450 million.

Corridor 11 is still not an official European corridor, and it should connect Romania, Serbia, Montenegro and Italy with the Timisoara -Belgrade-Bar-Bari route.


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Old September 18th, 2012, 01:05 AM   #4230
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Motorway,going North East from Begrade to Timisoara/Arad definetly makes sense(3 cities.)
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Old September 18th, 2012, 04:01 PM   #4231
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del. off-topic

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Old September 19th, 2012, 02:37 PM   #4232
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Also good thing on Djerdap, is the amount of trafic, its very low, and almost every car i see there is Romanian or Italian registration.
But the route Negotin - Miloseva Kula - Pozarevac - Beograd is not good?

According www.viamichelin.com the route Bucuresti - Craiova - Vidin - Negotin - Miloseva Kula - Pozarevac - Beograd seems to be the shortest.

How many euros you pay on the motorway between Paracin and Beograd and how many between Ralja and Beograd?
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Old September 19th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #4233
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How many euros you pay on the motorway between Paracin and Beograd and how many between Ralja and Beograd?
5 € (Paracin - Beograd)
2 € (Ralja - Beograd)

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Old September 19th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #4234
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It seems that Chinese are set to build the Pojate-Preljina motorway, a 110km link between Corridor's 10 & 11...

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By Misha Savic - Sep 19, 2012 8:21 AM ET

Serbia started talks with China’s CRBC International Co. on developing a 110-kilometer road in the central part of the Balkan country, Tanjug news agency reported, citing Minister for Regional Development Verica Kalanovic.

The company will probably get the contract for the Pojate- Preljina highway as Serbia also expects an 18-year loan for the project from the Export-Import Bank of China with a low and fixed interest rate, according to the report.

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Old September 20th, 2012, 12:17 PM   #4235
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5 € (Paracin - Beograd)
2 € (Ralja - Beograd)
Thak you, @sallae2!
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Old September 20th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #4236
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Looks like it has been decided - Chinese money & workers will build two sections of Corridor 11 motorway:

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Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:00am EDT

* Serbia to commission Chinese CRBC to construct roads -FinMin

* Loan deal to be arranged by end-2013 -FinMin

By Aleksandar Vasovic

BELGRADE, Sept 20 (Reuters) - The Serbian government will seek a long-term 850 million euro ($1.11 billion) loan from China this year to finance two modern highways in a bid to improve its run-down infrastructure, Finance Minister Mladjan Dinkic said on Thursday.

The Serbian government has already started talks with China's CRBC International Co. on the construction of two highways with a total length of about 200 kilometres to better connect central and southwestern regions with the rest of the country and the E75 pan-European highway, Dinkic said.

The project should be financed through an 18-year, low-interest loan from the Export-Import Bank of China.

"The government plans to complete talks on the loan by the end of the year and ... the construction could start in 2013," Dinkic said on the sidelines of a business forum in Belgrade.

The CRBC International Co. is already constructing a key bridge over the river Danube worth 170 million euros to connect Belgrade's municipalities of Zemun and Borca, under a deal signed with the previous government.

China also approved a 300 million euro loan two years ago to reconstruct a coal-fired power plant, while Chinese small investors have a growing presence in Serbia, especially in the retail sector.

Facing growing public debt of about 60 percent of gross domestic product this year and recession of up to 1 percent of GDP, Serbia has stepped up efforts to borrow from sovereign lenders both for its budget and infrastructure. The crisis in the euro zone, Serbia's main trade partner, has dampened demand for its goods and slowed investment inflows.

"The (Chinese) loan will be the single biggest taken during the duration of this government's (four-year) mandate," Dinkic said.

New Prime Minister Ivica Dacic said on Wednesday that Serbia should focus on boosting growth - including by attracting foreign investment - and stabilising the dinar rather than enforcing further spending cuts as recommended by the IMF.

The IMF froze a 1 billion euro ($1.3 billion) standby deal with Serbia's previous government, of which both Dacic and Dinkic were members, last year in a dispute over debt and spending plans.

Under a wider cooperation agreement signed in 2010 by the then-Serb President Boris Tadic and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, Serbia also secured an $800 million loan from its historic ally to overhaul its dilapidated rail network.

In December it will start the construction of a part of the South Stream gas pipeline that will carry Russian natural gas to Europe, bypassing Ukraine, at an estimated cost of 1.5 billion euros ($1.96 billion).

Serbia also attracts substantial investment from within the European Union, which it aspires in time to join, although disputes over Kosovo, which declared independence from Serbia, have hampered membership talks. ($1 = 0.7658 euros)
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 08:38 PM   #4237
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Chinese company interested in building roads in Serbia

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Belgrade, 22 Sept 2012 – Minister of Regional Development and Local Self-Government Verica Kalanovic met today with representatives of the Chinese construction company "Shandong Hi-speed Group", which has shown interest in doing business in Serbia, especially in the construction of regional motorways Pojate-Preljina and Novi Sad-Sabac -Loznica.

The Minister presented the Chinese delegation with priorities in building regional infrastructure, as well as the business environment in Serbia, and especially highlighted the good cooperation between the two countries.

During the meeting it was agreed that the company in the coming days should send a formal letter of intent to cooperate on this project.

"Shandong Hi-speed Group" is one of the leading construction companies in the construction of motorways, railways, airports and ports.

It operates in more than 30 countries around the world, and one of their biggest and best-known projects is the 43 km bridge length in the Chinese region of Shan Dong, which was built in just four years.

The capital of the company is estimated at more than $30 billion, according to a statement by the Ministry of Regional Development and Local Self-Government.
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 08:46 PM   #4238
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Construction of Pojate-Preljina motorway, a link between Corridor's 10 & 11, officially begins next Spring - with initial work on 12km long Krusevac bypass:

Its marked in blue on this map:

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Old September 24th, 2012, 02:37 AM   #4239
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Thanks for this, I was kind of starting to loose track of what is planned where with all these announcements. I would prefer to first see that section from Leskovac to Presevo finally finished rather than all these little sections going U/C all across the country to keep voters happy in every region.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 02:43 AM   #4240
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Good news! It's very exciting to see how things are advancing.
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