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Old June 24th, 2013, 12:55 PM   #4761
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When was the motorway from Novi Sad to Horgoš completed? I remember in 2009 it was only 2-lane road.
In 2010. and 2011., only one section near Novi Sad, is still under construction, but it's expected that it will be finished in august 2013.
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Old June 24th, 2013, 12:59 PM   #4762
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Hi, serbian forumers, I like a lot the photos of Belgrade Bypass. I have a question (well, do you know what? )

- What is the official date to finish Belgrade Bypass completely? I know that there are sections open.

- Is this the most expensive infraestructure that there are building in Serbia?

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1. some rumors are 2016.

2.No. Highway E80, E75 and E763 that are under construction are much more expensive then Belgrade Bypass
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Old June 25th, 2013, 10:05 PM   #4763
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Azvi/TADDEI tie-up wins 4.1 bln dinar (36 mln euro) road deal in Serbia - TED

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Serbian state-owned motorway company Koridori Srbije has picked a Spanish-Italian consortium to build the Grdelica-Predejane Tunnel section of the E75 highway in the Balkan country, a notice in the EU's procurement journal indicated on Tuesday.
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Old June 25th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #4764
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That's just south of Leskovac. Are they going to realign E75? There's only one minor tunnel on that stretch (circa 40 m long).
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Old June 25th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #4765
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Don't think of it as something unexpected. I'm not sure about other CEE countries, but we in Serbia have had major issues in dealing with Alpine Bau. I'm not saying this is exclusively their fault, however the matter of the fact is that I can't think of a single construction project in Serbia where Alpine Bau was hired as a major contractor that was completed as expected - regular delays, problems with the contracted price, etc.

The morale? When you are doing business the way Alpine does, you end up like this.
Exactly the same in Poland. Alpine are a horrid, horrid company - it seems that they've had major issues in most CEE countries. I'd understand it if they only had problems in one country, but it seems that their way of doing things was to win tenders, start construction, then stop halfway through for made up reasons and to try and demand extra money from governments.

I am convinced that their business model was completely dependent on being able to extort extra money from governments.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 12:42 AM   #4766
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That's just south of Leskovac. Are they going to realign E75? There's only one minor tunnel on that stretch (circa 40 m long).
Some of it yes. You can see which parts here. Blue is new alignment, orange is expansion of existing roads, green is already finished. The tunnel in question is on the left, marked 943 m and 1112 m.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 12:25 PM   #4767
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Some of it yes. You can see which parts here. Blue is new alignment, orange is expansion of existing roads, green is already finished. The tunnel in question is on the left, marked 943 m and 1112 m.
But tunnel is not part of that LOT1, both tenders for tunnels Predejane i Manajle LOT3 and LOT4 won bulgarian company ADVAL. here is the map, made by ww87, of e75 contracts winners

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Old June 26th, 2013, 07:31 PM   #4768
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Some fresh sat. images of three different sections of the eastern branch (Nis-Dimitrovgrad) of Corridor 10...


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Yesterday I prepared some satellite imagery on the bulgarian forum and the frame seemed to contain 3 motorway sections in Serbia. It would be such loss not to show them so I'm uploading here.

North of Bela palanka




South of Vladinchin han



Dimitrovgrad
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Old June 26th, 2013, 07:35 PM   #4769
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Meanwhile, new trials & tribulations on the construction site of Corridor 11...a centuries old oak tree in direct path of the future Belgrade-Bar motorway

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Old June 26th, 2013, 09:13 PM   #4770
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Director of the Institute for Forestry Ljubinko Rakonjac yesterday found that the old oak tree is about 600 years old and needs to be put under state protection.

- The team has just returned from the field, we estimated that the oak tree is about 600 years old and it absolutely needs to be protected. Everything should be done to make this valuable tree saved, because it is a historical and natural resource. These trees are not many in Serbia, can be counted on the fingers of one hand, which is even more reason for its preservation - explains Rakonjac, adding that the state itself has to take care of these natural resources.


Besides, this oak is a local tree-shrine.
It was an old custom to dedicate a place for prayers and confessions (in areas without built churches).
Nowadays, there is a built church nearby, but the oak is still considered as a shrine.

More about that tradition at Google transleted article.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #4771
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Old June 26th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #4772
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Old June 28th, 2013, 04:15 PM   #4773
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Obustavljeni radovi na Koridoru 10



Radovi na dve deonice Koridora 10 koje je na tenderima 2010. godine dobila austrijska građevinska firma Alpine Bau GmbH „poslednjih nekoliko dana su u potpunosti obustavljeni“, rečeno je u Koridorima Srbije. Račun beogradskog ogranka Alpine Bau GmbH od srede je ponovo u blokadi za iznos od oko šest miliona dinara.




Kao što smo već pisali, Alpine radi po dva lota na deonicama Pirot Istok – Dimitrovgrad i na Obilaznici Dimitrovgrad. Tenderom ugovoreni roki za završetak obe deonice istekli su, a radovi su dosad završeni, zavisno od lota, između 45 i 86 odsto.

Austrijska građevinska firma Alpine Bau GmbH poslovala je u Beogradu preko sedam društava čiji su vlasnici bili ili matica direktno ili preko firme MLA Beteiligungen GmbH iz Salcburga, u kojoj Alpine Bau ima većinsko vlasništvo. Danas su, prema Agenciji za privredne registre, a posle više spajanja i gašenja ranije postojećih društava, u Srbiji aktivna tri društva čiji je vlasnik Alpine: Građevinsko preduzeće Alpine doo, Alpine kamen doo Batočina i Ogranak Alpine Bau GmbH u Beogradu. Sa dobiti od oko 5,5 miliona dinara prošlu godinu je okončalo preduzeće Alpine kamen, dok su preostale dve firme poslovale sa gubitkom. Građevinsko preduzeće Alpine doo ima prošlogodišnji gubitak od 765,8 miliona dinara, a gubitak Ogranka Alpine Bau u Beogradu porastao je sa 67,3 miliona dinara u 2011. godini na 2,8 milijardi dinara u 2012. godini, dok je kumulirani gubitak firme iznad visine kapitala preko četiri milijarde dinara. Ogranak bečke kompanije Alpine Bau GmbH u Beogradu ove godine je bio 39 dana u blokadi i račun te firme je u sredu ponovo blokiran za iznos od oko šest miliona dinara.

Za to vreme u Austriji traje javno kandidovanje firmi koje bi trebalo po ubrzanoj proceduri da kupe austrijska gradilišta i preuzmu radnike Alpine. Očekuje se da ovih dana stečajni upravnik Štefan Ril valorizuje ponude i počne sa sklapanjem ugovora. Ni u jednom kontekstu se ne pominje sudbina gradilišta Alpine u Srbiji. Kao najozbiljniji kandidat za kupovinu dela ugroženih Alpininih gradilišta reklamira se najveća austrijska građevinska firma Štrabag, koja demonstrira i javnu nervozu što joj na ponudu već nije odgovoreno. Jedan od tri najveća vlasnika Štrabaga je ruski oligarh Oleg Deripaska, odnosno njegova firma Rasperia trading.

http://www.pirotskevesti.rs/gradska-...a-koridoru-10/
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Old June 28th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #4774
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Old June 28th, 2013, 05:04 PM   #4775
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One question to serbian forumers:

- Are E-70 and E-75 highways a motorway? I see in Google Maps and the legend appears like a motorway with an exception: Belgrade Bypass and the stretch between Vlasotince and Bujanovac.

- Motorways in Serbia have tolls? The legend in Google Maps says no, but I don't know surely.
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E-75 is motorway almost 100% from Horgos to Leskovac.
E-70 is motorway from Sid to Belgrade, the rest is 2x2 and 1x1 until RO border and goes also through towns/villages.

Motorways in Serbia are tolled with tollbooths, Belgrade urban motorway is not tolled. Belgrade ringrode is U/C, the same for the section from Leskovac to MK border.

Tolls list: http://www.putevi-srbije.rs/pdf/cene_putarina_eng.pdf
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Old June 28th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #4777
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Regarding Serbian toll I've got to say: Serbian highways are in really good condition in respect to the toll price. Travellin across Serbia is cheaper than one short section in e.g. Italy.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 06:36 PM   #4778
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Not for long - tolls are slated to go up by 20% as of July 1st.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #4779
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Not for long - tolls are slated to go up by 20% as of July 1st.
so far, it is just a rumour... not approved raise... i think there is not even an official request

... it looks to me just a minister statement to please union, so they will stop bugging him

will see on Monday
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Old June 29th, 2013, 02:41 AM   #4780
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roads in the serbian village rumenka near novi sad















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