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Old February 11th, 2015, 12:49 AM   #5901
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If there is such a thing as a state called Serbia with Kosovo being its province then surerly Serbs are discriminating against our 'province' purerly because of our race.
Bullsh?t. If Kosovo (and Metohija, off course) are part of Serbia, and you paid taxes to Serbia, then Serbia will build those roads. If not, you can build those roads by yourself. In this case particularly, you can pay for roads, and Serbs will build those roads.

This policy is perhaps discriminatory to people of Prokuplje and surrounding villages, but not to you.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 01:01 AM   #5902
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Bullsh?t. If Kosovo (and Metohija, off course) are part of Serbia, and you paid taxes to Serbia, then Serbia will build those roads. If not, you can build those roads by yourself. In this case particularly, you can pay for roads, and Serbs will build those roads.

This policy is perhaps discriminatory to people of Prokuplje and surrounding villages, but not to you.
There was a discriminatory policy towards Kosovo, that's why Kosovo is not part of Serbia any more.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 01:33 AM   #5903
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There was a discriminatory policy towards Kosovo, that's why Kosovo is not part of Serbia any more.
That is not question of roads, I'm sure. Maybe we can discuss about how to financing road between Niš and Podujevo through Merdare and politics behind it, but discriminating some ethnicity or 'race' because they aren't Serbs, by Serbian government, that just not true.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 06:00 AM   #5904
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Bullsh?t. If Kosovo (and Metohija, off course) are part of Serbia, and you paid taxes to Serbia, then Serbia will build those roads. If not, you can build those roads by yourself. In this case particularly, you can pay for roads, and Serbs will build those roads.

This policy is perhaps discriminatory to people of Prokuplje and surrounding villages, but not to you.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 07:54 AM   #5905
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How about Bujanovac-Gracanica, passing through as many Serb-inhabited areas as possible?
On the same logic we should not build A4, because it gives little benefit to Serbians (i.e. as much as Nis-Pristina motorway) and it's mostly going to be used by Turkish trucks transiting between Turkey and Western Europe.

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Old February 11th, 2015, 09:52 AM   #5906
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How about Bujanovac-Gracanica, passing through as many Serb-inhabited areas as possible?
That road is planned to be build. Some studies are done. More info available in Kosovo Roads section in Albanian forum, since that road mostly would be in territorry of Kosovo (Bujanovac is only 10 km far from the border to Kosovo). Still, it is uncertain when that road will start to be build.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #5907
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My key words are "passing through as many Serb-inhabited areas as possible", and the planned variants all pass through Gnjilane, an Albanian majority town. Will critics of the Nis-Pristina road accept the road that passes through Gracanica-Novo Brdo-border near Bujanovac? And it's an almost unbroken Serb majority corridor shown on ethnic maps of Kosovo.
Edit: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...011_census.GIF

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Old February 11th, 2015, 12:35 PM   #5908
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My key words are "passing through as many Serb-inhabited areas as possible", and the planned variants all pass through Gnjilane, an Albanian majority town. Will critics of the Nis-Pristina road accept the road that passes through Gracanica-Novo Brdo-border near Bujanovac? And it's an almost unbroken Serb majority corridor shown on ethnic maps of Kosovo.
Edit: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...011_census.GIF
I understand that...

The road, Prishtina - Bujanovac, would connect the villages in eastern Kosovo that are inhabited with Serbian majority with Serbia. Also, Preshevo Valley in Southern Serbia inhabited with Albanian majority would be connected with Kosovo.

Anyway, if this road is built that doesn't mean that Prishtina - Nish should not be built or reconstructed. These are two different roads that have different purposes and destinations that do not exclude each-other..
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Old February 11th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #5909
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...stop with pol(j)itics...please...
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Old February 11th, 2015, 02:54 PM   #5910
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...stop with pol(j)itics...please...
What makes you t(h)ink we are talking politics?
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Old February 11th, 2015, 06:31 PM   #5911
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My key words are "passing through as many Serb-inhabited areas as possible", and the planned variants all pass through Gnjilane, an Albanian majority town. Will critics of the Nis-Pristina road accept the road that passes through Gracanica-Novo Brdo-border near Bujanovac? And it's an almost unbroken Serb majority corridor shown on ethnic maps of Kosovo.
Edit: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...011_census.GIF
Those " serb-inhabited " areas are only couple unimportant small villages , so no point of building motorway just for them .
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Old February 11th, 2015, 09:14 PM   #5912
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First they take our homeland, and now they also hijack our forum topic.

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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:10 PM   #5913
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Old February 13th, 2015, 05:15 AM   #5914
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first they take our homeland, and now they also hijack our forum topic.
Who's they? I thought Kosovo was Serbia's southern province ie we are equal citizens within the republic of Serbia? No? Do we not get a say about road infrastructure in the rest of Serbia? No?

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Old February 13th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #5915
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Who's they? I thought Kosovo was Serbia's southern province ie we are equal citizens within the republic of Serbia? No? Do we not get a say about road infrastructure in the rest of Serbia? No?

...i've asked to stop with politics...

...answer to your question...they are - "ex nihilo" troubl(j)emakers...
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Old February 13th, 2015, 02:01 PM   #5916
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First they take our homeland, and now they also hijack our forum topic.

O rly?.
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Old February 13th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #5917
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Serbia in recent years has concentrated on its motorway core and key transit routes. I do not disagree with the priorities that have been progressed since 2000.

These core transit routes, now almost complete, will generate income for the Motorway operation, both for maintenance of the network and for network expansion in time. Thats because the traffic that will pay most of the tolls will come from those areas.

Motorways are not isolated or stranded infrastructure, other classes of infrastructure need investment too, power, water , broadband networks also need capital investment.

Building empty roads to nowhere simply wastes money that can be used better elsewhere for the benefit of more citizens.

All of the above is a universal truth ...no matter what country you are from.
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Old February 13th, 2015, 08:51 PM   #5918
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When it comes to motorways, Serbia is actually not too bad, and nearing completion of all the major roads that make sense currently. A1 and A4 will be completed within the next several years, and A2 is progressing nicely. After that, there really isn't much left. Perhaps extend A2 through Banat to the Romanian border, start building "A5" from A1 to Bosnia passing through Cacak and Krusevac, and also maybe a motorway through Fruska Gora between Novi Sad and Sabac. Besides those what I mentioned, there isn't much else.
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Old February 13th, 2015, 09:01 PM   #5919
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Sure there is...



Some are not even marked here, like Belgrade-Zrenjanin-Kikinda, Subotica-Sombor, Kraljevo-Kos. Mitrovica, Nis-Pristina, etc.
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Old February 13th, 2015, 09:16 PM   #5920
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Yeah, all those would be nice and all, but you need to consider a cost-benefit analysis. Serbia is a poor country, and the money is needed elsewhere. I think that almost all of those roads shown in the map, if built to full motorway standards, would be a waste of money.
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