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Old July 7th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #6121
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I'm not a professional, but it seems to me that in Canada they have been used for many decades. I really haven't noticed them in Serbian before this.
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Old July 11th, 2015, 06:23 PM   #6122
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So, latest map of built/UC motorways across the countries of former Yugoslavia...biggest change since the the last map is, of course, the long awaited start of construction of Montenegro's section of Belgrade-Bar motorway

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Old July 11th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #6123
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Project for new Drina bridge between Serbia & Serb Republic:

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Public procurement for the bridge at the Drina - Call for offers opened by August 18
Friday, 07/10/2015|11:11 | Source: RTV

The Ministry of construction, traffic and infrastructure, released a call for offers for public procurement for construction of the Ljubovija – Bratunac bridge which will be opened August 18, the Ministry has announced today.

Then, as the Ministry says, contractor with which the contract will be signed will be selected.

With the selection of contractor, along with the project development for construction permit, which has been in progress, conditions for construction works for the bridge at the Drina to start in the fall this year are generated.

The works total EUR 12 m, where Serbia will participate with a bit more than six million euros and the rest will be funded by BIH and the Republic of Srpska.

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Batrovci border crossing to expand
Friday, 07/03/2015|12:04 | Source: RTV
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Long lines at the Batrovci border crossing could soon end since capacity expansion is expected.

As announced from the Border police, additional lines for pass of passenger and freight vehicles will be made.

The minister of construction, traffic and infrastructure, Zorana Mihajlovic, spoke about that upon her recent visit as well as in previous statements.
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Old July 11th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #6124
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How is the construction of A4 coming along ? Didn't hear any news for quite a while.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 01:09 PM   #6125
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Hello guys!

I see that there is a planned connection between Novi Sad and A3. And also on some maps I see that there is a projected expressway/motorway between Novi Sad and Timisoara via Zrenjanin. So I was wondering, wouldn't this be the best way to connect the 2 countries after all, since it would also benefit the Romanians traveling to some Southern European countries such as Italy. And also, Zrenjanin is not very far away from the projected Belgrade ring road, so connection with Belgrade would not be a problem either.

I just thought that the connection through Vrsac would be of greater length and would not be helpful for Romanians transiting Serbia. A ramification of Romanian A1 along the Bega River to the Serbian Border (after bypassing Timisoara) seems more logical.

Are any of these currently U/C (Novi-Sad-A3, Belgrade-Varset, Novi-Sad-Zrenjanin)? Which one do you think will be built first? Do you guys travel to Europe Visa-free now? And does crossing the borders to the EU take a lot of time?

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Old July 12th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #6126
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Hello guys!

I see that there is a planned connection between Novi Sad and A3. And also on some maps I see that there is a projected expressway/motorway between Novi Sad and Timisoara via Zrenjanin. So I was wondering, wouldn't this be the best way to connect the 2 countries after all, since it would also benefit the Romanians traveling to some Southern European countries such as Italy. And also, Zrenjanin is not very far away from the projected Belgrade ring road, so connection with Belgrade would not be a problem either.

I just thought that the connection through Vrsac would be of greater length and would not be helpful for Romanians transiting Serbia. A ramification of Romanian A1 along the Bega River to the Serbian Border (after bypassing Timisoara) seems more logical.

Are any of these currently U/C (Novi-Sad-A3, Belgrade-Varset, Novi-Sad-Zrenjanin)? Which one do you think will be built first? Do you guys travel to Europe Visa-free now? And does crossing the borders to the EU take a lot of time?

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Connecting Zrenjanin with any sort of expressway/motorway is little possible in my opinion since Zrenjanin still does not have completed 1+1 bypass, only one part and road to Novi Sad is planned to be reconstructed, which is great. Everything else (expressway/motorway to Timisoara or Belgrade) is distant future for me as railway connections of Zrenjanin are also in poor condition (no train to Novi Sad and Vrsac for years, to Belgrade in Pancevo also no traffic for months...).
Yes, citizens of Serbia can travel to EU without UK+Ireland without visa since December 2009.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 02:44 PM   #6127
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But, I mean, there could be a bypass built from scratch, as part of the motorway connecting Timisoara and Novi Sad... But anyway, from your answer i get that there are no immediate plans regarding that possibility.

But what about Novi-Sad to A3 (and Sabac?). What's the status of that? And Belgrade-Varset?
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Old July 12th, 2015, 06:31 PM   #6128
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Well, you've seen the map above - if these sections were U/C, they'd be marked in red

I'd say they're waiting for the currently U/C sections to be completed before embarking on new projects. A2 is certainly Serbia's biggest priority right now, after that, I would say A5 - at least, that would be my choice.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 07:07 AM   #6129
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Protest by concerned citizens against the plan to bury the remnants of a 4th century early Christian basilica found along the path of the A4 motorway:

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Old July 13th, 2015, 02:38 PM   #6130
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Why are they concerned? Because they are Orthodox ?
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Old July 13th, 2015, 08:59 PM   #6131
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Old July 14th, 2015, 04:22 AM   #6132
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But, I mean, there could be a bypass built from scratch, as part of the motorway connecting Timisoara and Novi Sad... But anyway, from your answer i get that there are no immediate plans regarding that possibility.

But what about Novi-Sad to A3 (and Sabac?). What's the status of that? And Belgrade-Varset?
I personally think its more likely that any motorway border between Romania and Serbia will be located at Vatin/Moravita (between Timisoara and Vrsac). I believe this section is in the latest Romanian Ten-T motorway priority plan - this motorway, if ever built, is even referred to as the A9.

Vrsac has more economic, ethnic and academic links to Timisoara and Romania in general then Zrenjanin and the border at Vrsac compared with the Srpska Crnja border crossing (the border connecting Zranjanin and Timisoara) speaks volumes as well in terms of current levels of activity! The latter is almost something out of a western movie, with equally unprofessional/bored/corrupt border guards to match!

At any rate, the fact that a huge percentage of people in Serbia (never mind the rest of the former Yugoslavia) are full of outdated prejudices and stereotypes about Romania which are based on the distant past will take time to change...as once they open their minds and cross into Romania they'll see a wonderful country developing very quickly in all facets and one in which there is every reason to develop business, tourist and other links.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 10:42 AM   #6133
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the fact that a huge percentage of people in Serbia (never mind the rest of the former Yugoslavia) are full of outdated prejudices and stereotypes about Romania which are based on the distant past
Really? That's strange! In Roumania there are a lot of people that considers serbs as orthodox brothers and teh only friendly neighbor (as there were no military conflict between us). And in Banat many roumanians helped serbs during embargo, just like Serbia helped roumanian who flee during Ceausescu regime.

As fo the utility for the highway between Timisoara and Belgrade: some roumanian would want a direct link towards south of Belgrade (Smederovo area if posible) to help them on their way to Greece and Muntenegro during holidays, other would want a direct link west of Belgrad as they go often towards Croatia or Italy. So Vrsac for Greece or Zrenjanin for Italy.
Of course this is the least important criteria that should be taken under consideration.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 11:53 AM   #6134
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It's offtopic, but from my experience, the average Romanian is very ignorant about Serbia. Mostly only people from Banat have some ties with Serbia, and only because about 100 years ago current Romanian and Serbian Banat were one province/country. On Serb side it's very similar. But if you go outside of Serbia in other ex-Yu countries it's even worse, people have very outdated knowledge about Romania.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 11:15 PM   #6135
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Really? That's strange! In Roumania there are a lot of people that considers serbs as orthodox brothers and teh only friendly neighbor (as there were no military conflict between us). And in Banat many roumanians helped serbs during embargo, just like Serbia helped roumanian who flee during Ceausescu regime.
The same opinion is from Serbian side as well, I can guarantee that.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 12:21 AM   #6136
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Indeed.

I can't speak for everyone, but when I came across a couple of Romanian tourists, guys about my age from an eastern city of Romania (close to Iasi) in Belgrade last summer, I took them around town on my own dime - from Nikola Tesla museum to dinner in Skadarlija district - they didn't spend a cent that day. Why? Simply cause they were our Romanian bros.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 06:00 AM   #6137
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Really? That's strange! In Roumania there are a lot of people that considers serbs as orthodox brothers ...And in Banat many roumanians helped serbs during embargo, just like Serbia helped roumanian who flee during Ceausescu regime.
Completely off topic.......

But to clarify - In general the warmth between Romanians and Serbians is fantastic. What I was speaking about relates to those in ex-YU countries who had not been to Romania in the past 5-10 years or so. However, all Serbs I've brought to Romania have been completely open minded and when they've got there been thoroughly impressed.

Romanians are also warm to Serbs and other ex-YU countries even if they know nothing or very little about them.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 02:20 PM   #6138
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So I guess that Batajnica interchange is essentially finished.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 05:51 PM   #6139
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Yes, but Batajnica Boulevard will have to wait. There seems to be some expropriation issues.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 11:12 PM   #6140
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One lane of the new bridge in Čiflik near Bela Palanka (on A4) is completed and opened to traffic.
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