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Old October 13th, 2009, 04:45 PM   #641
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Some more photos from two sections of Novi Sad-Horgos motorway....









































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Old October 13th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #642
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Belgrade ring-road from the air:

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Old October 13th, 2009, 04:53 PM   #643
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Belgrade ring-road from the air:

Belgrade's ringroad is all motorway?
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Old October 13th, 2009, 04:57 PM   #644
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Well, it should be, once its completed...

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Old October 13th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #645
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It's good Belgrade started working on the motorway already. Bucharest is now working on expanding the ringroad 2 from 1x1 to 2x2 (possibly to an expressway) and on closing ringroad 1 (something like the red marked road in your Belgrade map), and has postponed building the motorway ringroad after 2013 maybe.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 05:05 PM   #646
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I'd like to see a map of Bucharest's motorways/ringroads/etc
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Old October 13th, 2009, 05:12 PM   #647
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The outside green ring is the one that has to be completed with this passage:




The outermost ring is the current Bucharest ringroad which is under expansion works.As to motrways, there are only 2: A1 and A2 which go on opposite directions. You can see them on the Romanian motorways thread.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #648
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Well there are more motorways 30 years already .
If Serbia would accept Hungarian system than it could name motorways like this:
BG-MKD borrder A1
BG-Hungary A2
BG-Croatia A3
BG-Pancevo A4
Nis-Bulgaria A5
or something similar.
i doubt. first, they will definitely leave space for motorway in direction RO. secondly, i doubt they will make A3 in direction HR, just because of HR's A3. HR also made discontinuity with numbers just because of SLO A2 (HR A3 had to be A2, but they've switched A2 and A3 not to touch with same named SLO motorway)
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Old October 13th, 2009, 06:58 PM   #649
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Belgrade's ringroad is all motorway?
No, nothing yet. The current bypass is still 1x2 as seen on recent Google Earth imagery. There are groundworks for a second carriageway done in the past though.

As of now, I don't think through traffic in Beograd is more than 10,000 - 15,000 AADT.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #650
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but one is for sure, A-1 is Bgd-MKD and A-2 Bgd-H
for the others assign them on random
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Old October 13th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #651
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Belgrade ring-road from the air:

The beltway (more of a bypass U/C) runs left to right here. The 2x2 section is M22 towards Beograd center.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 07:14 PM   #652
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Looks like someone is trying to be banned ("servia(slaveland)"). Mods can see who put tags, for his info.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 07:17 PM   #653
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There isn't much traffic because the ringroad is half-finished so who is going to use the road to nowhere?
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Old October 13th, 2009, 07:23 PM   #654
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i doubt. first, they will definitely leave space for motorway in direction RO. secondly, i doubt they will make A3 in direction HR, just because of HR's A3. HR also made discontinuity with numbers just because of SLO A2 (HR A3 had to be A2, but they've switched A2 and A3 not to touch with same named SLO motorway)
I counted motorway to Pancevo that is direction Romania.
Serbs do not have complexes with Croatia and i doubt someone cares what is the name of the same motorway in Croatia.
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: what complexes? it is just not usual in world that number stays the same by crossing the border (Although there are some examples). and that what you suggested doesn't have anything in common with H system (which is based on follwing national roads' numbers; e.g. M7 follows route of national road 7, M3 national road 3 etc.)
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I think A3 is supposed to branch off A1 near Niš to run towards Sofia.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 03:55 AM   #657
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If we would be naming these motorways for their importance, then A1/M1 should be the the future Belgrade-Bar(Montenegro) motorway. There should be nothing more important for Serbia than that project.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 04:35 AM   #658
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Serbia is one of the last countries in Europe - if not the last one - without the numeric national system (A1, A2 ...) for motorways
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:59 AM   #659
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If we would be naming these motorways for their importance, then A1/M1 should be the the future Belgrade-Bar(Montenegro) motorway. There should be nothing more important for Serbia than that project.
well, IMHO most important mwy is E-75.
It serves/connects 10 major cities of Vojvodina & Central Serbia (Subotica, Novi Sad, /Zrenjanin/, Belgrade, Pančevo, Smederevo, Kragujevac, Kruševac, Niš, Leskovac).

so motorways can be numbered like in Hungary, Russia ... starting from capital city Belgrade as central point. They can be numbered to reflect clock directions from Belgrade as center of the clock ...

they can be numbered in chronological order (as motorways are made), importance order, randomly ...

myself, I would prefer interstate or E-roads numbering desgnations, even numbers (east-west mwy directions), and odd numbers (north-south directions) ordered ascendingly N2S and W2E

so major mwys could be covered with single digits numbers, i.e.

so, even numbers, West-East direction:
A0 - Sombor - Subotica (reserved # 4 future mwy)
A2 - Novi Sad - Zrenjanin (reserved # 4 future mwy)
A4 - E-70 (Sava mwy) HR - Sid - Belgrade - Vrsac - RO (partialy done mwy)
A6 - E-761 (West Morava mwy) BH - Uzice - Cacak - Kraljevo - Krusevac - Zajecar - BG (planned mwy)
A8 - E-80 (Nisava mwy) Prokuplje - Nis - BG (next year u/c)

and, odd numbers, North-South direction:
A1 - (Drina mwy) Loznica - Sabac - Sombor (partialy planned)
A3 - E-763 (Kolubara mwy) Belgrade - Ljig - Cacak - Sjenica - MNE (next year u/c)
A5 - E-75 (Morava mwy) H - Subotica - Belgrade - Nis - Vranje - MK (mostly done)
A7 - (Tisa mwy) Belgrade - Zrenjanin (not planned mwy)
A9 - E-771 (Timok mwy) Nis - Zajecar - Kladovo - RO (not planned mwy)

this way by the mwy number one can assume mwy location & direction

other branches, bypasses, ring roads, etc ... could be numbered after nearby city area code, i.e.

A11 - Belgrade bypass (u/c)
A34 - Kragujevac bypass (u/c)

and, there are few countries that don't double mwy numbers on E-roads, so I see o.k. to just use E-70, E-80, E-75, E-761, E-763, E-771 without A#
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myself, I would prefer interstate or E-roads numbering desgnations, even numbers (east-west mwy directions), and odd numbers (north-south directions) ordered ascendingly N2S and W2E
I think that only works in a grid system (like the United States, Poland or Germany). I doubt if Serbia is the right country for that, since there is one major focal city (Beograd) instead of numerous ones, like in the countries I mentioned.
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