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Old March 8th, 2016, 07:14 AM   #6621
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Bit of flooding going on in Serbia right now, delaying some motorway works such as
here on the Chinese section of A2 near Obrenovac , where a bridge is being built over Kolubara river...

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Old March 8th, 2016, 07:25 PM   #6622
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Relocation of Bubanj Potok toll gate starting soon, partly to accomodate new IKEA store...

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Relocation of toll gate from Bubanj Potok to Vrcin in late 2016

Sunday, 03/06/2016|17:19 | Source: Novosti

Relocation of the toll gate from Bubanj Potok to Vrcin, which was initially planned to be done in September 2015, has not started yet because the main design is still not finished.
Given that the opening of the building site was delayed from the very start, Austria's Strabag, which won a job in early 2016 to build a new toll gate, will have to roll up the sleeves to finish the work in eight months.
- The main design is currently under preparation, and its completion will be followed by the start of works. They are expected to commence by the end of March - said people at Putevi Srbije.
The tender documentation says that works are to be finished by the end of August, and Strabag asked for additional month and a half.
Domestic companies Vojvodinaput Pancevo and PZP Zajezar will help the Austrian company in this project valued at RSD 2,095,241,098 or about EUR 17 million, which should be finished by October 15th at the latest.

Start of works accelerated by IKEA
The toll gate near Bubanj Potok is only temporary and shall be relocated according to the plan from 2010, which is a sort of revised edition. Therefore, the announced construction of IKEA department store is not a cause for the relocation of toll gate, but it is definitely a reason to accelerate the start of relocation works.

An eight-kilometer difference
Once all the works are done, the new toll gate will be situated a kilometer away from the existing interchange Vrcin, that is, eight kilometers away from the toll gate in Bubanj Potok.

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Old March 8th, 2016, 08:13 PM   #6623
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Hi, I have car which is on leasing and the owner is leasing company. I want to enter Serbia, what do I need for the car? I know there is no green card? Thank you.
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Old March 8th, 2016, 09:29 PM   #6624
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To avoid any trouble at the border but also from your leasing company ask from your leasing company a letter of attorney, meaning that you have permission to use the car outside your country.
Seems obvious, don't you think.
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Old March 9th, 2016, 07:09 PM   #6625
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Most up to date map of built & U/C motorway section in Serbia, Montenegro & Serb Republic:

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Old March 10th, 2016, 11:35 PM   #6626
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With construction of Belgrade-Podgorica & Belgrade-Banja Luka motorways well underway, looks like its now time to think about Nis-Pristina motorway:

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€1.9bn for infrastructure projects in Serbia


Belgrade, 10 March 2016 – Minister without portfolio in charge of European integration Jadranka Joksimovic stated today that 18 strategic infrastructure projects worth €1.9 billion are in the preparation phase, including the construction of the motorway from Nis to Pristina.

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At the third meeting of the National Investment Board, Joksimovic explained that the government intends to implement projects ensuring the most favourable financing conditions, by using EU grants, concessional loans from international financial institutions, funds from other development partners, as well as funds from the Serbian budget.

According to Joksimovic, a detailed analysis of the projects identified all the preparatory steps that we need to do in order for projects to be implemented effectively.

These projects include the construction of facilities for waste water treatment in Novi Sad, modernisation of the railway on Corridor 10 in several sections, a water treatment plant in Nis and more, she said.

The government has so far provided €166.2 million for projects from the Single review of priority infrastructure projects, and the conditions under which these projects are funded are very favourable, she confirmed.

Joksimovic, who is also the national IPA coordinator, said that the project of modernisation of the railway from Nis to the border with Macedonia, i.e., the section Nis-Brestovac 23 kilometres long, will be financed from the grant 75%, and the rest will be provided from the Serbian budget.

According to Joksimovic, the total value of the projects that Serbia will submit to the European Commission for funding this year amount to €281 million, of which €180 million will be non-refundable.

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Old March 14th, 2016, 01:12 AM   #6627
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Driving from Nis to Beograd i noticed the "strange" by me mileage on the highway. Near Nis it was near 800 km, counting down towards Beograd. As the distance Nis -> Beograd is about 220 km and Beograd towards Croatia border is about 100 km, so where do the "Mile 0" stone should lie?
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Old March 14th, 2016, 01:36 AM   #6628
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Most likely in Slovenia at Loibl pass at the border to Austria. Old measurement from Yugoslavian times... This was road M1 also known as Autoput "Bratstvo i jedinstvo".

Perhaps Kilometer 0 was in Karawanks Tunnel in Slowenia since the road was reallocated after finishing the tunnel. But I guess we'll never know...
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Old March 14th, 2016, 11:43 AM   #6629
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Most likely in Slovenia at Loibl pass at the border to Austria. Old measurement from Yugoslavian times... This was road M1 also known as Autoput "Bratstvo i jedinstvo".

Perhaps Kilometer 0 was in Karawanks Tunnel in Slowenia since the road was reallocated after finishing the tunnel. But I guess we'll never know...
The mileage was counted from Podljubelj (Slovenia) because there was the start of M1 road (Autoput bratstva i jedinstva): route on GM

The Karavanke tunel was opened on the 1st of June 1991, just 24 days before Slovenia and Croatia declared independence, so it's not so likely that they had time to reallocate the 1st kilometer from Podljubelj to Karavanke.

On Croatian D21, D66 and D8 roads there sre still visible old M2 designations along the route (second most important road in SFRJ, heavily used during the summer).

Sorry for the slight offtopic
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Old March 14th, 2016, 07:43 PM   #6630
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You're right of course, I thought the tunnel was opened sooner.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 09:18 PM   #6631
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The mileage was counted from Podljubelj (Slovenia) because there was the start of M1 road (Autoput bratstva i jedinstva): route on GM
I disagree with you. It's more likely the M1 (Autoput Bratstva i Jedinstva) started near Podkoren. The road towards Ljubelj was a branch of M1 and had a different number. It was signposted as a branch as it is still now.
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Old March 14th, 2016, 11:45 PM   #6632
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On Croatian D21, D66 and D8 roads there sre still visible old M2 designations along the route (second most important road in SFRJ, heavily used during the summer).

Sorry for the slight offtopic
Any example?
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Old March 15th, 2016, 12:37 AM   #6633
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Any example?
https://goo.gl/maps/WFGxyQ43NSG2
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Old March 15th, 2016, 12:44 AM   #6634
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I disagree with you. It's more likely the M1 (Autoput Bratstva i Jedinstva) started near Podkoren. The road towards Ljubelj was a branch of M1 and had a different number. It was signposted as a branch as it is still now.
I made some searching and it seems that km 0 was near Ratece according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothe..._Unity_Highway

Edit: According to Wikicommons, the old Yugoslavian M1 indeed goes from the now Slovenian-Austrian Border at Wurzen Pass to the now Macedonian-Greek border at Gevgelija. So KM 0 of M1 was at Wurzen Pass.

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...oldKaartM1.svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...dKaartM1-1.svg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...dKaartM1-2.svg

That also correspondents to the route of Slovenian road number 201.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 12:01 PM   #6635
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I disagree with you. It's more likely the M1 (Autoput Bratstva i Jedinstva) started near Podkoren. The road towards Ljubelj was a branch of M1 and had a different number. It was signposted as a branch as it is still now.
You are right!

Here's the official document from 1987 (Odluka o utvrđivanju magistralnih puteva) which states that M1 ran from Korensko Sedlo/Wurzenpass (today road 201 in SLO) towards Podkoren, Kranjska Gora, Jesenice (the rest of the route is known).

Road from Podljubelj/Loiblpass to Naklo (today road 101) was signed as M1.1.

Anyway, it's interesting that BIH and Serbia have continued to use old ex-YU designations for main roads/magistrale/highways (not motorways).
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Old March 15th, 2016, 01:10 PM   #6636
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Anyway, it's interesting that BIH and Serbia have continued to use old ex-YU designations for main roads/magistrale/highways (not motorways).
Serbia does not use the Yugoslav road numbering anymore. They changed their system twice, in 2011 and finally in 2013.
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Serbia has changed its numbering quite a bit back, but it's not implemented yet. Montenegro also uses the old M numbering as well as Kosovo.

And in BiH the two entities just can't make an arrangement for the road numbers. Although the Federation introduced a new one, but limited to the federation. And it's also not yet implemented.
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Serbia has changed its numbering quite a bit back, but it's not implemented yet.
It's implemented, but you can still signs with old numbers.
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That's what I mean
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Serbia has changed its numbering quite a bit back, but it's not implemented yet. Montenegro also uses the old M numbering as well as Kosovo.
Kosovo changed M-numbers to N-numers. But the numbers stayed the same indeed. Montenegro and BiH have both introduced some new M-n umbers which didn't exist in Yugoslavia (or more accurate: Not on that location )
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And in BiH the two entities just can't make an arrangement for the road numbers. Although the Federation introduced a new one, but limited to the federation. And it's also not yet implemented.
The introduction is postponed till November 2018.
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It's implemented, but you can still signs with old numbers.
Sometimes with new ones as well:
https://www.google.nl/maps/@44.90220...7i13312!8i6656
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