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Old November 8th, 2016, 03:26 PM   #7141
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Why does that happen?
Half the road would've been ready had this section been opened to traffic.....
I think it's because this section is too short and goes from "nowhere" to "nowhere"...
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Old November 8th, 2016, 03:46 PM   #7142
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Judging by Google Earth, only the Lajkovac interchange was completed at that time. So they couldn't open it without an interchange at Ub (though usually they would built a temporary access point).
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Old November 8th, 2016, 04:19 PM   #7143
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This March 2016 imagery shows the situation at Ub. The segment to Lajkovac is complete, but the Ub interchange is not, so it cannot open without this interchange.

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Old November 8th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #7144
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What caused a decision to be made for Surcin-Obrenovac section rather than Ostruznica-Baric regarding A2 motorway? The exit from Belgrade will not be the most convenient in such a case. If it were from Ostruznica I/C of the Belgrade bypass, road 26 was ready. It is broad enough there and goes centrally to the city downtown. Moreover, there would be no need for an additional bridge over Sava.
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Old November 8th, 2016, 07:44 PM   #7145
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Who cares about Belgrade?
It's more important that we from Zemun have a direct connection to A2.

Now seriously, its because of the area on the other side of Sava river, at Umka, is prone to landslides and it would take a massive amount of money to "fix".
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Old November 8th, 2016, 07:50 PM   #7146
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Ub - Lajkovac is already finished (in December 2014), but out of use:
I know.I just put with other 2 sections for MichiH project list.
Exactly. My list indicates OPENING dates. Ub - Lajkovac is completed but not yet in service due to the missing Ub interchange. The section will be (officially) opened in combination with the neighboring section. That means, an additional 63km A2 will be opened in December 2017 (or anytime later if there's another delay which would not be a big surprise...).

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Negotiations have begun about the next phase of A2, towards Montenegro...
If funding would be available, could construction works start short-term - like Surcin - Obrenovac section - or are planning documents not yet completed and approved?
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Old November 8th, 2016, 11:31 PM   #7147
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What caused a decision to be made for Surcin-Obrenovac section rather than Ostruznica-Baric regarding A2 motorway? The exit from Belgrade will not be the most convenient in such a case. If it were from Ostruznica I/C of the Belgrade bypass, road 26 was ready. It is broad enough there and goes centrally to the city downtown. Moreover, there would be no need for an additional bridge over Sava.
Ostruznica-Baric has one part, Duboka. That is one of biggest landslides in Europe (you cold see big curve of existing road). It is untamable. Its cheaper to bypass it with bridge from north.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 01:38 AM   #7148
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Old November 12th, 2016, 08:35 AM   #7149
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If funding would be available, could construction works start short-term - like Surcin - Obrenovac section - or are planning documents not yet completed and approved?
Well, its hard to say really - on one hand, if we merely look at the media, they're still bickering over the proposed route, ways of financing (outright credit or some sort concession agreement or PPP and so on...), even the very idea of building a motorway south of Pozega/Uzice. After all, the estimated cost of close to 2 billion euros, is somewhat prohibitive for a "poor" country.

On the other, if they were to find a interested party, such as the Chinese, that's able to offer an agreeable financing model & carry out construction works, I don't see a reason for any major delays in construction - Serbia has enough resources and competence to wrap up any necessary preparation in a relatively short term. A lot of it has already been done.

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Old November 13th, 2016, 12:33 AM   #7150
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In what way do the semi circles in the emergency lane help in case of fog?
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Old November 13th, 2016, 01:39 AM   #7151
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A nice gallery of the new section a day before its ceremonial opening: http://www.koridorisrbije.rs/sr/dan-uoci-otvaranja
Indeed, this highway introduced a couple of novelties to Serbia's highway system, the re-orientation circles in case visibility is limited and rumble strips. Two interesting safety features.

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Old November 13th, 2016, 11:31 AM   #7152
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If you see two semicircles you should drive 60 km/h. If you see one you should drive 40.
That's the point, what can be seen in a dense fog. Obviously these elements are set for such specific conditions but until tested in reality, it is hard to say how efficient they are.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 02:27 PM   #7153
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That's the point, what can be seen in a dense fog. Obviously these elements are set for such specific conditions but until tested in reality, it is hard to say how efficient they are.
Why do you think it hadn't been tested in reality? In Croatia, A1 from Zagreb to Karlovac and A3 used to had them, but not any more (after new layers of asphalt had been laid down; but they also removed the vertical signalization for some reason). Also, Slovenia introduced those markings few months ago.

The speed limit (60 or 40 km/h) is calculated according to braking distance and visibility in a specific situation. For example, if the visibility is such bad that you see only one marking, if you drive 40 km/h you should be able to brake and stop when you see another vehicle stopped, without crashing into it. So, if you obey the limit, you should be fine
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Old November 13th, 2016, 02:59 PM   #7154
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The anti-fog signage is being used on some Italian motorways since 1985.
http://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubbl...ti-nebbia.html
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old November 13th, 2016, 04:42 PM   #7155
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Report by fellow forumer vukasin.spasic on the Prosek - Bancarevo section of the A4 motorway (the one towards Bulgaria), photos of the finished stretch:




























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Old November 13th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #7156
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So...what's the plan here?Road 427 to Crvena Reka or private motorway for a couple of vilages?
How will the current end at Nis be organised?Main traffic continues through the old way or through the new stretch?
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Old November 14th, 2016, 02:53 AM   #7157
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Planned opening date of the aforementioned segment?
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Old November 14th, 2016, 02:53 AM   #7158
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Old November 14th, 2016, 02:56 AM   #7159
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Subotica bypass works have started ... again.

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Author: Aleksandra Isakovčetvrtak, 10.11.2016. at 17:53
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Subotica - As was announced (the day before) when signing a contract, at 6.30 workers of the company "Vojput" took to the track Y-spoke and began to work on the construction of kilometers of road and the roundabout near the village of Bull. Heavy machinery has already prepared the ground and do an extension on which envisages the construction of a roundabout that will connect the bypass with the bulls.

If the morning shows the day, putari "Vojput" within the next 100 days to complete what is their task: the reconstruction loop "Subotica jug", the end of the road, a distance of one kilometer of the loop "Subotica jug" to the intersection with Y-spoke Bikovački way, as well as the construction of a roundabout at this junction. At this stage it is envisaged to set up and public lighting, traffic signs and other necessary papers. The deal is worth 123.5 million dinars.

Minister Zorana Mihajlovic signed on 9 November contract with the Subotica road construction company that won the tender for continuation of construction work on the Subotica bypass. Roads should connect Kelebija border crossing with the highway to Belgrade and is part of Corridor 10. This is the seventh time since 1990 that work began on the road 23.6 kilometers long, but so far built only 11 kilometers.

"Vojput" for the second time was on building a Y arm, and they started to work in 1990, when in one go and the longest paved section from five kilometers. Construction of Y-spoke is very important to Subotica, because the roads had taken out these cargo traffic from Kelebija, which now runs through the center of the city. However, due to the pace of the building, all attempts to get it finished they were accepted with skepticism. The government has ordered that within two years this junction in the profile of the highway could be completely finished.

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Old November 14th, 2016, 03:12 AM   #7160
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Construction of next stage of Belgrade's UMP continues even on national holidays...pictures taken on Friday, Armistice Day:













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