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Old January 7th, 2017, 10:12 AM   #7241
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Costs for design planning are the same but construction costs for building the first carriageway would be reduced by about 25..30%. However, adding the 2nd carriageway would be more expensive if it's built one day.

For safety reasons, e.g. if traffic has a high truck share, it might be better to build a full-profile motorway.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 02:48 PM   #7242
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Costs for design planning are the same but construction costs for building the first carriageway would be reduced by about 25..30%. However, adding the 2nd carriageway would be more expensive if it's built one day.

For safety reasons, e.g. if traffic has a high truck share, it might be better to build a full-profile motorway.
Well, i always hate people saying this decision is the only possible all others are stupid. When german motorways were built in the 6ties nobody dreamed of making them 3+3. But nowadys one could be more clever. But still new overpasses and bridges are built, which must be demolished later, if widening takes place. Even on stretches, where widening is concerned or even planned.

So taking into account the situation, i think the serbians (and others) are often much more clever then the germans for example.

On the other hand the hungarian idea of building an expressway like M85/M86 and saving some 3% by making the emergency line out of gravel is so obviosly stupid...

But one should not forget the overall situation i think. And in comparison to our german motorway building, most eastern european countries excel....
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Old January 8th, 2017, 03:10 PM   #7243
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Sorry, I don't get what you wanna say "i always hate people saying this decision is the only possible all others are stupid". I hope you don't hate me

I just said that there might be advantages (saving 25..30% of funding) and disadvantages (building 2nd c/w will be more expensive one day, less improvement for road safety now).

You brought former German Autobahn construction to this discussion. Looking back, some bridges were built for roads which have never been built (so-called "Soda-Brücken" = Bridge to nowhere) or space was reserved for future widening (more expensive due to wider overpasses et cetera) but there's still no demand at all. It was waste of money!

I think, if there's demand for a motorway, build a motorway. If there's not enough funding, make shorter sections. Each section completed improves the situation even if steps are small.

If there's no demand for a motorway, build a normal 2-/3-laned road only.

Generally, roads are built for future demand!
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Old January 10th, 2017, 04:58 PM   #7244
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I see nothing wrong with half profile where demand is uncertain...and the EU is paying a lot of the cost.

I would only dual long climbing sections to provide a crawler lane forctrucks and buses.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 08:27 PM   #7245
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Hello !

I want to ask if it is true what i see in the German car-driver-club "ADAC" that in serbia the highway part of the A4 from "Ciflik - Stanicenje" has been openend on the 28.12.2016 ?


Why does Google Maps still doesnt show it ? :/
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Old January 19th, 2017, 10:53 PM   #7246
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čiflik-stancienje is open for traffic but without the final layer of asphalt and it has the speed limit of 80km/h...
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Old January 19th, 2017, 11:35 PM   #7247
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Forget Google Maps, use http://www.openstreetmap.org
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Old January 20th, 2017, 09:22 PM   #7248
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čiflik-stancienje is open for traffic but without the final layer of asphalt and it has the speed limit of 80km/h...
Ah okay, maybe because of the google maps has still doesnt updated that part :/ could be.

and when will that final part be made?
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Old January 20th, 2017, 11:14 PM   #7249
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Ah okay, maybe because of the google maps has still doesnt updated that part :/ could be.

and when will that final part be made?
Google maps are generally slow to update. Even the new fully-completed Ljig-Preljina motorway opened more than 3 months ago isn't there yet.
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 11:27 PM   #7250
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Just a nice pic... Beska bridge last month:

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Old January 23rd, 2017, 08:06 PM   #7251
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Great pic of Beška Bridge and what looks like some ice flooting down river.
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Old January 24th, 2017, 03:34 AM   #7252
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23 January 2017

Key highway sections to be completed in Serbia in 2017

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A series of major highway sections in Serbia should be completed during 2017, including work to two stretches of the key Corridor 10 project. In all, some 122km of highways are expected to be opened to traffic in Serbia during 2017.

Greek contractor Actor is building an 18km stretch of Corridor 10 that runs from Surcin to Obrenovac part. This firm is also building a 19.5km section of Corridor 10 from the Ostruznica Bridge that spans the Sava River to Bubanj Potok, and a further 10km section leading to Bubanj Potok. The Srpska Kuca to Levosoje stretch of highway meanwhile is being built by a group of companies.

Costing €297.4 million, the Belgrade-South Adriatic highway project is being carried out by Chinese contractor Shandong High Speed Group. Funding has been delivered by China's Exim Bank. This is a complex highway project which includes the construction of 12 tunnel stretches as well as 234 bridges.

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Old February 7th, 2017, 03:55 AM   #7253
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Some newly released stats ...

- In 2016, some 43.024.087 vehicles (+3.688.505 y/y) passed through Serbia's motorway toll booths, generating 16,9 billion dinars (+9,32% on 2015) in toll revenue.

- First full month of tracked use saw 160.152 vehicles on the recenly opened Ljig-Preljina section of A2 motorway, or about 5.166 per day during the month of January.
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Old February 7th, 2017, 02:07 PM   #7254
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...the terrain is practically flat up to Rudare. Only about 20 km would be on mountainous terrain.
It's not flat at all. Not even close. Marosina-Prokuplje hilly, viaducts need to be made, bypass north of Prokuplje will cost a minimum as the one around Dimitrovgrad, Plocnik-Merdare, narrow meandering valley with river in the bottom, hills on both sides of the road, bad soil prone to landslide, a bunch of cuts and slopes need to be made...
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Old February 8th, 2017, 04:09 PM   #7255
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Ski patrol to Zlatibor:



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Old February 9th, 2017, 06:21 PM   #7256
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What about Autoput A4 ( Nis-Dimitrovgrad ) construction ?

2017 should be finish time ?!
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Old February 9th, 2017, 08:07 PM   #7257
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Some issues have arisen lately...its nothing that wasn't already known to forumers, yet the government is pretending this is all new somehow...

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Serbia finds Aktor's motorway construction plan unsatisfactory

BELGRADE (Serbia), February 9 (SeeNews) - Serbia's infrastructure ministry said that Greek civil engineering group Aktor's plan to catch up on delays in the construction of parts of Nis-Dimitrovgrad motorway is unsatisfactory.

According to the supervision and engineering experts at the ministry, the plan is unrealistic and does not comply with the contractual obligations of Aktor, the ministry said in a statement on Wednesday after infrastructure minister Zorana Mihajlovic met with Aktor executive director Dimitrios Koutras to present an analysis of the plan proposed by the Greek company.

Last week, the Serbian government said it planned to complete the analysis by February 8 before deciding how to proceed with construction works on the project and possibly terminate the contracts for some of the four sections awarded to Aktor.

"Aktor is not a small firm, it works everywhere in the region, but apparently has financial problems and has not hired enough workers to complete the construction, and relocates workers from one place to another. It has completed a little more than half of the 48 km stretch it is working on," local news agency Beta quoted Mihajlovic as saying last week.

The Greek company is building the Prosek-Crvena Reka, Crvena Reka-Ciflik, Stanicenje-Pirot sections and Dimitrovgrad bypass of the Nis-Dimitrovgrad motorway, part of pan-European Corridor X. Aktor is in charge of building two of three lots of the Prosek-Crvena Reka sections in consortium with Italian sector player Terna. In the Dimitrovgrad bypass project, Aktor is also executing two of three lots.

All of the sections, except for Lot 2 of Prosek-Crvena Reka, had to be completed by the end of 2016.

Corridor X is projected to connect Salzburg in Austria to the Greek port of Thessaloniki, passing through Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and Macedonia.
- See more at: https://seenews.com/news/serbia-find....Qle0n8v5.dpuf
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Old February 12th, 2017, 09:06 AM   #7258
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Reconstruction of roundabout on Belgrade's Slavija square in full gear...



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Old February 12th, 2017, 06:47 PM   #7259
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Prep works for Belgrade's newest Sava river bridge have begun - it will be about 1800 meters in length and its part of the Surcin-Obrenovac section of Belgrade-Bar motorway (A2)


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Preliminary work to build a bridge across the Sava in progress - Chinese to build 17.6 kilometers of Corridor 11 from Surcin and Obrenovac

Sunday, 12. 02. 2017 | 17: 43 | Source: BBC


As announced last year, construction of the section of Corridor 11 (highway between Belgrade and Cacak) from Surcin to Obrenovac was to be started in March.

However, the Mayor of Obrenovac Miroslav Čučković announced that they have already begun preparatory work for a new bridge at the mouth of the Kolubara and Sava, which is being built as part of this project.

As the President of the City Municipality said, with work to begin in a few days.

- Work began a few days ago, but I could not tell you exactly when it will be completed, is expected to take about three or four years - said Čučković.

The new bridge across the Sava will be 1,800 meters long, and these works are only part of the planned work on the section of Corridor 11, which includes construction of 11 bridges and overpasses.

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Newly relocated Bubanj Potok toll gate starting to take shape...



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