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Old October 14th, 2017, 11:36 PM   #7641
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Considering that this new highway will link to the proposed Užice-Sarajevo motorway it will be part of a new central east-west corridor. Given that, I think the link from A5 to A1 should be at Deligrad, even though it would be more costly. That way you have better flow to Niš and further east to Sofia and beyond, while you still have good connectivity to the north on A1 from Deligrad.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 11:45 PM   #7642
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If someone is driving from Sofia to Sarajevo 10 km longer trip is not much. The main responsibility is to Serbian drivers and taxpayers.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 01:02 AM   #7643
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Arnorian, it seems you and I are the only ones interested in this discussion, so be it.

How did you get 10km longer? Deligrad-Pojate-Kruševac is about 45km. Deligrad-Kruševac would be roughly 20km, as a direct route with tunnels. So your route is about 20-25km longer. Anyway, I just think you have to consider traffic from Southern Serbia and beyond, as well as more northerly areas.

What do you think that instead of the proposed Niš-Priština motorway, a Priština-K.Mitrovica-Trstenik route? For the Kosovars (and Macedonians) they would be linked to A5 with this new motorway. For Serbia, Kopaonik (major tourist area), Mitrovica and this part of Serbia would now have motorway access to central Serbia and beyond.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 04:44 AM   #7644
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New toll ramp completed on A1 motorway near Subotica...



This summer season (July & August), revenue from highway toll collection has gone up 22,15% compared
to the previous year.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 12:46 PM   #7645
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How did you get 10km longer? Deligrad-Pojate-Kruševac is about 45km. Deligrad-Kruševac would be roughly 20km, as a direct route with tunnels.
I'm getting 44 vs 32 km on Google Maps on present roads. Naturally a motorway would be a bit shorter, so it's about 15 km.


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What do you think that instead of the proposed Niš-Priština motorway, a Priština-K.Mitrovica-Trstenik route? For the Kosovars (and Macedonians) they would be linked to A5 with this new motorway. For Serbia, Kopaonik (major tourist area), Mitrovica and this part of Serbia would now have motorway access to central Serbia and beyond.
Niš-Prokuplje-Beloljin is needed. The part beyond is not.

A motorway through the Ibar valley is out of the question. It would be far too expensive.

This is a motorway/expressway network that would be enough for the foreseeable future.

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Old October 18th, 2017, 05:05 AM   #7646
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Great overall plan, just one thing really I'd like to add .... we'd be fools to ignore the ever increasing role of the planned "Via Carpatia" corridor - practically planned as a "Serbia-bypass" of sorts, dating back to 1990's.

So, we should build our "Corridor East", via Pozarevac & Negotin, to grab traffic and pocket precious toll revenue

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Old October 18th, 2017, 01:12 PM   #7647
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It would be very expensive, and traffic in that part is very low. It would make more sense to connect Vidin with A1 at Paraćin via Zaječar. An expressway would be more than enough.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 05:37 PM   #7648
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This makes sense only if the Bulgarians are building Sofia-Vidin motorway. And if the Romanians are building, or will build, Bucharest-Calafat.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:24 PM   #7649
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We've finally gotten a tentative date for the, as I like to call it, "suggested" completion for Belgrade motorway bypasss - 2020. Let's see if they can honor that.

Sector C is also mentioned.

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MIHAJLOVIC: Section of bypass route around Belgrade from Ostruznica to Bubanj Potok to be completed by late 2020

Ministry of Construction, Transport and Infrastructure Zorana Mihajlovic talked to representatives of the company PowerChina, whose subsidiary Sinohydro is engaged in projects in Serbia, about the construction of the bypass route around Belgrade on October 17.

As the ministry reported, Mihajlovic said that the construction of the said route had been expected for 30 years.

– A commercial contract on the section from Ostruznica to Bubanj Potok was signed last year and we expect it to be completed by the end of 2020 – Mihajlovic said.

She added that, in addition to an efficient realization of the project on the said section, the Government also aimed to have a commercial contract signed for the remaining 31 kilometers of the bypass route, from Bubanj Potok to Vinca and Pancevo, in the shortest amount of time possible.

– We want Serbia to be the leader in cooperation with China in the field of infrastructure and the center for Chinese investments in this part of Europe – Mihajlovic said and added that the total value of infrastructural projects of Serbia and China amounted to around EUR 6 billion.

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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:27 PM   #7650
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Actuallly the Romanians will give priority first for the Craiova pitesti Highway . And the road between craiova and calafat it has been repaved two years ago . This highway in my opinion will boost the economy of the Serbian region of the iron gates , the vaincin archaeological sites ( prehistoric ) and the mountainous regions of east Serbia that are very beautiful . Also it will be near to serberno jezero ( silver lake ) and deliblatsko pesćara ( the one of two desert areas present in Europe ) and both of them are present in Serbia ( one there and one at subotica) .not to mention the strategic importance to connect Serbia with Black Sea through Romania
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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:29 PM   #7651
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Ostružnica to Bubanj Potok is urgently needed, but Vinča to Pančevo is really not a high priority.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 08:23 AM   #7652
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The Vinča bridge is a priority, because it will carry a rail track that is necessary for removal of tracks through Belgrade Waterfront area, which was promised to the Emirati investors.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 06:32 PM   #7653
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The Vinča bridge is a priority, because it will carry a rail track that is necessary for removal of tracks through Belgrade Waterfront area, which was promised to the Emirati investors.
Any date scheduled date for the opening of the Vinča bridge?
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Old October 20th, 2017, 05:38 AM   #7654
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No, it's too far down the pipeline ... when it comes to new Danube bridges in Belgrade, the new Ada Huja bridge, part of the outer ring expressway (SMT), has absolute priority.

And we just heard even that project has been delayed by two years - probable opening now pushed back to 2022, due to design & land expropriation issues.

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Old October 20th, 2017, 05:39 AM   #7655
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First they have to build it before they open it, and there is no scheduled construction date yet. Also the continuation of the ring road will be built first, for that it appears that they may begin later this year with late 2019 or 2020 for a completion date.
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Old October 20th, 2017, 05:48 AM   #7656
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Well, if construciton starts in 2019, with approx. 30-36 months needed, it could be opened in 2022.
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Old October 20th, 2017, 05:56 AM   #7657
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Speaking of Belgrade's bypass bridges....work continues but very very slowly on doubling up the Ostruznica bridge:













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Old October 20th, 2017, 06:36 AM   #7658
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Work is progressing slowly, but it looks like all the bridge support columns are done. Can anyone confirm that?
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Old October 20th, 2017, 07:35 AM   #7659
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The existing 1+1 from Sarajevo to Uzice does not even get any serious traffic. Too many countries popped up.... I always rest in the evening in Visegrad when I drive from Belgrade. I can play with a ball on the street because it seems quiet. The reality is that the Yugo brotherhood is long gone hehe.


Now if I were to spend my cash or spread my chips, I would rather build Belgrade-Timisoara. The bigger firms have invested in Romania. That region also seems more stable to me. Uzice - Sarajevo should be left as 1+1.


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I think Republika Srpska want to build that motorway, too. At least ist leads from Belgrad directly to Pale. But I also want to do a lot... Just the money is missing and therefore the problem.

And if somebody looks at the terrain from the border to Sarajevo, he will see that it will be not easy to build a motorway there. This will cost a lot of money... And if there is enough traffic to justify this? I doubt it.
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Old October 20th, 2017, 01:18 PM   #7660
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I can play with a ball on the street because it seems quiet.
The existing 1+1 from Vrsač to Stamora Moravitza does not even get any serious traffic either.
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