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Old September 28th, 2010, 07:44 PM   #1401
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Eh, by the time Serbia joins EU, we'll already have a basic motorway network (~1500km realistically, 2000km optimistically) in place, so any EU financing will be redirected to the high-speed rail network or even one or two spaceports we plan to build
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Old September 28th, 2010, 07:46 PM   #1402
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Cyrillic is quite easy

Koridor 10 kroz republiku Srbiju

X = Obilaznitsa Beograd (Beograd bypass)
X = Grabovnitsa - Preshevo
Xb = Subotica - Novi Sad
Xc = Nish - Dimitrovgrad
Obilaznica, Grabovnica, Preševo, Niš. Serbian is written in Cyrillic, as well as Latin, so their Latin characters apply (č, š, ž ...).
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Old September 28th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #1403
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Eh, by the time Serbia joins EU, we'll already have a basic motorway network (~1500km realistically, 2000km optimistically) in place, so any EU financing will be redirected to the high-speed rail network or even one or two spaceports we plan to build
Or even to a subway line in Beograd?
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Old September 28th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #1404
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I know, but I don't have those characters at hand at my keyboard Usually I copy them out of wikipedia.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #1405
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Here's a nice oldie - motorway through New Belgrade, circa mid-1970's:

[img]http://i48.************/w8w4di.jpg[/img]
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Old September 28th, 2010, 08:10 PM   #1406
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Nice pictures. I think Novi Beograd is one of the most meticulously planned urban areas of the former communist countries in Europe. What is its current-day reputation? In western Europe, such planned neighborhoods with pre 1980's apartment buildings are considered unattractive.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 08:15 PM   #1407
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Isn`t it just dual carriageway? Not just bacause of these pavements.

btw, Chris we (I bet also in another countries) prefer to write it without acute marks and carons. (eg SK-Košice,HR-Šibenik / Kosice, Sibenik.. used like this also in English books)
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Old September 28th, 2010, 08:31 PM   #1408
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Nice pictures. I think Novi Beograd is one of the most meticulously planned urban areas of the former communist countries in Europe. What is its current-day reputation? In western Europe, such planned neighborhoods with pre 1980's apartment buildings are considered unattractive.
Well, while I've personally never lived there, I can tell you that New Belgrade consistently ranks as the Belgrade municipality with the highest average salaries. Also, its becoming very desirable to live there - around the Belgrade Arena for example, prices of apartments already reach 2k euros/m2 or more, comparable with some nicer districts of "old" Belgrade. Even today, New Belgrade is changing rapidly what with new office buildings opening practically every day, parks, shopping malls, even a science center & opera house have been announced. Who knows, once the first metro line is built, I might consider buying a place there too.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #1409
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The old communist city planning turns out quite convenient in today's age of increasing automobility. Main roads are wide enough to handle significant amounts of traffic, and parking space is not a problem.

The renovated apartments also don't look that bad, although for apartments, I'd prefer the somewhat smaller scale ones on the foreground of this picture:
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Old September 28th, 2010, 10:39 PM   #1410
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The old communist city planning turns out quite convenient in today's age of increasing automobility. Main roads are wide enough to handle significant amounts of traffic, and parking space is not a problem.
Yeah just if you have such a small parts of city with commie blocks.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 06:23 AM   #1411
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Nice pictures. I think Novi Beograd is one of the most meticulously planned urban areas of the former communist countries in Europe. What is its current-day reputation? In western Europe, such planned neighborhoods with pre 1980's apartment buildings are considered unattractive.
I would say that Novi Beograd looked quite nice even around late 1980s. Sava Centre, Hyatt Regency and Intercontinenal were all built from with a "western accent". Add redone Usce tower as well, it looked quite nice to me when I saw it this summer.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 08:28 AM   #1412
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And let's hope Corridor XI will be approved and financed by the EU, to create a better link between Serbia and Romania.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 08:38 AM   #1413
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The renovated apartments also don't look that bad
The good thing about commie-apartments in ex-yu is the quality, they were built very solid with massive concrete. One generaly can't compare them to commies in Eastern Europe/hormer german democratic republic where they built out of this crap
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Old September 29th, 2010, 12:02 PM   #1414
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Unfortunately those so-called commie apartments throughout the whole ex-Yu are energy-consumpting (equal as similar apartment blocks in former Soviet bloc) and therefore shall be renovated to meet current European standards in low consumption of energy, when Serbia enters the European Union.
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Old September 29th, 2010, 01:43 PM   #1415
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@Chris

That part of NBGD is one of the less popular there. Like CS wrote most popular part is around BGD Arena but personally i prefer the NBG hood by Danube, generally part of NBGD northern of the railway line is more popular than the part southern of it.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 01:22 AM   #1416
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The good thing about commie-apartments in ex-yu is the quality
I used to live in a commieblock built by soldiers, where walls were uneven.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 02:42 AM   #1417
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I used to live in a commieblock built by soldiers, where walls were uneven.
if you proceeded reading you would have seen that I said generaly
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Old September 30th, 2010, 02:55 AM   #1418
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I just told you my story, nothing more.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 07:55 PM   #1419
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Latest news about Belgrade's ring-road say that, after a pause of two years, construction work on this very important transport artery will really heat up next Spring - Austrian firm "Strabag" will carry out construction on the ~10km Batajnica-Dobanovci section while local firm "Energoprojekt" got the job of completing Orlovaca-Avala (sector 5), a very demanding ~5km section. The good news is that the longest tunnel along this stretch, Strazevica (~750m), is close to completion.

Another domestic firm, "Planum", will in the meantime work on the Batajnica intersection.



Couple of older pics of Strazevica tunnel construction:







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Old September 30th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #1420
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I never really envisioned a larger ring road than from Zemun to south of Beograd, but an extension to Pančevo would make a lot of sense. It would also serve traffic from Timişoara and Arad to Niš, Skopje and Greece. Is this corridor X from Timişoara to Bar envisioned to follow this part of the planned beltway via Pančevo, or via Zemun?
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