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Matthias, honestly... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_MD-11 The MD-11 came out in 1990. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A330 A330 came out in 1992. That is 2 years, Matthias. Two. The A330-300 came out in 1993. That is three years, Matthias. Just Three. These planes are both on the same level in terms of modernity. As for their operators, you're right about the Siwss MD11s. Finnair, Varig, Alitalia, and Fedex still operate fleets of MD11s, however. Lufthansa Cargo and UPS do to. For the life of me, man, i just cannot understand what your beef is with these jets. First the 767, and now the MD11.
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And how many airlines flew the MD11 in 1990 (or in the early 90īs) already? SwissAir, KLM, American Airlines etc. If this plane is so "modern" why isnīt Suisse flying it any more (after restructuring the company and why did it start to replace its before Swissair had gone bankrupt?) and why did it replace it with more modern aircraft like the A340īs and A330īs? The new A330īs and A340īs are more modern and more envirmomentally friendly than the MD11, nobody can deny this? If there is no difference between the B767 and the A330, why did Gulf Air started to replace their wack B767 with modern A330 or why did Emirates replace their A300-600 and A310 with more modern A330īs and A340īs? Why did Qatar Airways celebrated it with pomp when they started to operate their LHR-DOH and later FRA-DOH route with modern A330īs instead of A300-600? B767, MD11 are not the latest technology avaible or as environmentally friendly as the A330īs or A340īs, B777īs swallow it or leave it, period! wealthy airlines that strive for perfection phase these planes (MD11, A300-600, B767) out...or have already done it I prefer flying with the B777īs A340īs A330īs than with any B767īs or MD11 which are considered in my eyes "old" planes. Gulf Air had no in-seat videos on their old B767 but they have them now on A330, look at the inseat-videos that Emirates had on their A310īs and compare them to those on their A330īs or A340īs, not to speak of their B777īs! PEACE
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1990 and 1992 were their respective maiden flight dates, Matthias, not their entry to service dates. The fact is that both aircraft, in terms of how long they have actually been around, are only 2 years apart in age.
[qote]If this plane is so "modern" why isnīt Suisse flying it any more (after restructuring the company and why did it start to replace its before Swissair had gone bankrupt?) and why did it replace it with more modern aircraft like the A340īs and A330īs?[/quote] Because it was making a move towards Airbus as a company, that's why. Swiss International Airlines(successor to swissair) still flies A320-200s, a design that is actually a year older than the MD-11. They were clearly making the transistion to an all airbus fleet, hence the switch. As I have already shown, the A330 is the same as the MD-11 in terms of modernity. They were both designed at the SAME TIME. Quote:
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not another ceaseless debate with you, Datexavier.
![]() I agree with the switch aspect concerning Suisse you brought forward but why did Air Namibia choose an A340 instead of keeping their MD11 which are still "modern" why did they write in their timeable that they replaced their older MD11 with more modern A340īs? they still fly Boeing 737īs, I cannot see any "switch aspect", here. or do they plan to replace them with A320īs/A319īs/A318īs? As a whole, I stick to the points that I have said, accept them, if your prefer the old B767 or MD11, then it is your opinion and your choice, I accept it but please accept mine, too! I prefer the more modern A330īs and B777īs which have gradually been replaced by the older B767 and MD11 due to aspects of better technology, quiter engines and more ecolological resaons...if the B767īs or the A300īs were still modern Emirates or Gulf Air wouldnīt have phased them out and Etihad would have bought leased A300 or B767īs or MD11 (in your eyes modern aircraft) instead of buying brand new A330 and A340 and B777s
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I am also perfectly aware that not all airlines installed an inseat video, for example on Air Canadaīs A330-300 series, there is none! It is also a question what the airlines want to pay additionally to provide better service to their passengers. |
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Bah, I'm done with this, matthias.
Virgin Nigeria 737s: ![]() ![]() Virgin Nigeria A320: ![]() Virgin Nigeria A340:
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Guinee Airlines AN-24:
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Air Ivoire Fokker F28:
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Thanks Dantexavier, for the Virgin Nigeria pics this time!
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Btw, before the crisis, Air Ivoire wanted to get an A330, it has been put on ice!
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In Urbanity We Trust
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Dante, how dare you post pictures of Virgin Nigeria's leased Airbus A320s!!! Do you not think they have their own aircraft? Or is this a greater implication that all aircraft in Africa are old, except for a few leased from European airlines. People like you will continue to ensure Africa has a negative reputation in the world!! You think they cannot fly modern aircraft on their own?
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![]() ![]() ![]() Nice one, King. I legitimately thought your post was Matthias' edited until I actually looked at the username(and realized the font was purple )I do have to be fair, though-Matthias did thank me this time instead of starting an argument.
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Sudan Airways A300:
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Some more Air Ivoire stuff.
Fokker F28 in Burkina Faso: ![]() F28 in Abidjan: ![]() F28 in Guinea: ![]() A321 in Abidjan:
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LOL where is the "famous" Air Afrique?? still they exist??
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