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Old July 28th, 2011, 09:52 PM   #2101
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Of course another freeway is better for network redundancy. But a new east-west freeway parallel to QEW would mostly serve rural areas. Welland is already served by the 406 and east-west traffic towards London is now served by the Red Hill Valley Parkway. I think this new freeway will be of very little use, you can't justify a new freeway just for those few times per year the road is blocked for a longer period. Why not widen the existing freeway to 8 lanes instead?
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Old July 28th, 2011, 10:04 PM   #2102
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Of course another freeway is better for network redundancy. But a new east-west freeway parallel to QEW would mostly serve rural areas. Welland is already served by the 406 and east-west traffic towards London is now served by the Red Hill Valley Parkway. I think this new freeway will be of very little use, you can't justify a new freeway just for those few times per year the road is blocked for a longer period. Why not widen the existing freeway to 8 lanes instead?
Technical constraints, especially in St. Catharines where the QEW is bound by the built-up city. The proposed alignment actually is a shorter route to the Fort Erie crossing (Buffalo) while the present QEW alignment is more efficient for Niagara.

The new alignment will help trucks travelling between the GTA and the US, and not so much the rural areas where it passes.
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Old July 28th, 2011, 10:38 PM   #2103
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Do most trucks go through Buffalo? In my experience (and I grew up in Southern Ontario, and lived in the Niagara Region for about 6 years) the QEW between Niagara Falls and Fort Erie is rather quiet.

I thought most use the 405 over the Queenston/Lewiston Bridge.
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Old July 29th, 2011, 05:37 AM   #2104
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I used to see lots of trucks on the peace bridge. Taking the 405/I-190 from Lewiston to Buffalo takes longer than simply taking the QEW to Buffalo.

You also have to pay for another toll bridge if you take it.
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Old July 29th, 2011, 07:10 AM   #2105
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Do most trucks go through Buffalo? In my experience (and I grew up in Southern Ontario, and lived in the Niagara Region for about 6 years) the QEW between Niagara Falls and Fort Erie is rather quiet.

I thought most use the 405 over the Queenston/Lewiston Bridge.

I use Ft. Erie most of the time and the truck traffic is light down that end of QEW and the crossing.
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Old July 29th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #2106
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Learn more about the border crossings : http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/...canada-border/

The Peace Bridge is the country's 3rd busiest crossing for passenger vehicles and trucks.
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Old July 29th, 2011, 06:03 PM   #2107
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18,900 vehicles per day. That's nothing, in Europe there are border crossings with 70,000 vehicles per day.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 12:17 AM   #2108
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Old July 30th, 2011, 01:29 AM   #2109
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Well, I can understand about the Mississauga - Hamilton sections. But the traffic volumes on the Hamilton - Saint Catharines section are not that high for six lanes. There are instances where twice that amount of traffic is recorded on six lanes.
It is an issue of both high summer volumes (ranging generally between 100,000 and 115,000) between Hamilton and Niagara Falls, and a lot of truck traffic. In my experience the QEW is seldom congested in the Winter, but fairly congested in the Summer. An extra lane per direction could be added at relatively little cost. When the QEW was six laned in the 1990s, the highway was built with eight lanes in mind.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 06:35 AM   #2110
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Wow the highway thread over on SSP is an absolute disaster
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Old August 6th, 2011, 06:22 AM   #2111
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Wow the highway thread over on SSP is an absolute disaster
Yeah ... the transit v. highway debate is pretty tired.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 06:38 AM   #2112
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Yeah ... the transit v. highway debate is pretty tired.
SSp is more serious then SSC , they back things up with facts and other things and demand certain things.... SSC is more relaxed , its also less facts and more photos.
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Old August 7th, 2011, 12:39 AM   #2113
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I like the photo threads here.

This is a section of Ontario's Old Highway 17 east of Ottawa:
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Old August 7th, 2011, 02:06 AM   #2114
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Yeah ... the transit v. highway debate is pretty tired.
Yeah its pretty sad. They can't set aside 1 thread for the actual discussion of highways (specifications, proposals, general discussion, etc.). Just a bunch of transit trolls spewing the same tired lines. And most of the time they're wrong
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Old August 7th, 2011, 04:06 AM   #2115
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the Don Valley Parkway from Lawrence:

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Old August 8th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #2116
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Anything happening on a new crossing between Detroit and Windsor? There has been a advert playing quite frequently on CBC Newsworld and CTV Headline News channels. In the advert, it's claimed that the Michigan Govt has voted down the project, while at the same time, a certain MLA (Dalton McGuinty [spell?] comes to mind) in Ont. is pressing ahead with a "Freeway To Nowhere". Does anyone have any info on the status of the project?
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Old August 8th, 2011, 07:49 PM   #2117
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All I know is the MTO has a plan to upgrade connectivity from the Ambassador bridge to the 401. Basically get rid of that congested traffic light riddled stretch of Huron Church rd.

I wish they would extend the 401 to Amherstburg, ON and build a crossing over to Gibraltar or Rockwood, MI to connect to I-75 and skip driving through Detroit and ease congestion at the Bridge/Tunnel crossing there. One can dream.....
Here's the MTOs link for the Detroit-Windsor border improvements

And heres a link to the Windsor area improvements
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Old August 9th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #2118
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I think its a complicated issue. From Michigan's perspective, MDOT just spent a ton of money on their gateway project which links the Ambassador bridge directly to both I-75 and I-96. Now the Ambassador Bridge Company hasn't fulfilled their end of the deal, and I suspect that they are generally pretty bad corporate citizens. However, I can appreciate Michigan's reluctance to build another approach freeway and systems interchange.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #2119
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Fargo Wolf the commercials you're talking about are a bunch of misinformation from the Ambassador Bridge Company. They set up shop in Canada now aswell and have been funding these commercials calling out the Premier of Ontario and his "highway to nowhere".

The next step for the bridge is a vote proposed by Governor Rich Snyder in the fall by the Michigan legislature. Until then its all speculation but I gaurantee the bill will pass. When you see the province of Ontario already going ahead with the Windsor Essex parkway, its pretty obvious they mean business and this deal WILL get done.

Until the vote this fall all we can do is watch construction of the WE Parkway (ontario residents get down there and start snapping pictures!).

In the very unlikely event the bill doesn't pass though Lt. Governor Brian Calley has said there are 12 different ways of doing the bridge, so regardless of the outcome this thing will get done. They path they're taking now is their most desired though, so lets hope the bill passes
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Old August 10th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #2120
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I figured as much Volt. Just thought I'd get a bit of a confirmation on them.
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