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Old August 13th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #2121
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Anything happening on a new crossing between Detroit and Windsor? There has been a advert playing quite frequently on CBC Newsworld and CTV Headline News channels. In the advert, it's claimed that the Michigan Govt has voted down the project, while at the same time, a certain MLA (Dalton McGuinty [spell?] comes to mind) in Ont. is pressing ahead with a "Freeway To Nowhere". Does anyone have any info on the status of the project?
Here's the thread about that project :
U.S., Canada to build new Detroit-Windsor bridge: Report
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Old August 18th, 2011, 10:46 PM   #2122
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Parkway is road to the future: MPP

Dignitaries take part in a groundbreaking for the Windsor-Essex Parkway on Howard Avenue in Windsor on Thursday, August 18, 2011.

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/business/...#ixzz1VPZaqQOO
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Old August 31st, 2011, 01:56 PM   #2123
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The power of a highway on a city...

This article appeared in the Melbourne Age today, but did Vancouver really lose its top livability status over a road...


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MELBOURNE has leapfrogged Vancouver to regain its title as the world's most ''liveable'' city, almost a decade after it last held the crown.

But in what may come as a shock to a citizenry that prides itself on its artistic offerings, Melbourne's culture was rated as only ''tolerable'', whereas our transport infrastructure, education and healthcare were all rated as ''acceptable''- the highest rating.

In a ranking of 140 cities around the world, Melbourne came first with a near-perfect ranking of 97.5. Sydney came in sixth, while Perth and Adelaide came joint eighth

A minuscule fall in Vancouver's infrastructure score - caused by the intermittent closure of the key Malahat Highway - made it slip to third place with a rating of 97.3, a whisker behind Vienna, in second place with 97.4.

An ecstatic lord mayor Robert Doyle - who declared himself ''leader of the world's most liveable city'' and donned full ceremonial robes to mark the occasion - said Melbourne was ''vibrant and living and edgy and cool and urbane'', and this was no accident.

''We don't have a beautiful harbour or an Opera House, we don't have a big rock, a big banana or big prawn, so we have focused on the things that make us liveable - our festivals and laneways,'' Mr Doyle said.

The biannual ranking of ''liveability'', undertaken by The Economist magazine's Intelligence Unit, assesses which cities around the world provide the best or worst living conditions.

Survey editor Jon Copestake said low population density and relatively low crime rates meant Australian cities remained high in the rankings.

''Despite the rising cost of living driven by the strong Australian dollar, these cities offer a range of factors to make them highly attractive,'' he said.

In contrast to the strong performance of Australian cities, political unrest and the euro zone crisis caused a dip in European liveability measures, including that of Greece, which dipped 2.5 per cent.

''Arab Spring'' countries might improve their liveability results but possible gains in living standards are yet to materialise, with Libya's war-torn capital Tripoli in the bottom 10 for the first time.

Zimbabwe's capital Harare languished at the bottom of the ranking table, with its public transport, petty crime and healthcare described as ''intolerable''.

Also in the bottom 10 were Dhaka, Port Moresby, Tehran and Lagos.
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Old September 1st, 2011, 02:50 AM   #2124
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A minuscule fall in Vancouver's infrastructure score - caused by the intermittent closure of the key Malahat Highway - made it slip to third place with a rating of 97.3, a whisker behind Vienna, in second place with 97.4.
There's been considerable controversy over this statement, as the Malahat Highway is NOT in the City of Vancouver, but on Vancouver ISLAND. The fellow who handed out the ranking made a futile attempt to justify the inclusion of the highway, but only made himself look like an idiot.

The highway is notorious for it's winding nature, as well as the high number of crashes, both fatal and serious injury, over the years. While upgrades have taken place, including four laning and concrete barrier, the highway still demands the utmost respect.
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Old September 1st, 2011, 02:08 PM   #2125
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That sounds a bit harsh on Vancouver...the city doesn't really deserve to lose that status over a road that it has taken steps to improve.
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Old September 1st, 2011, 02:20 PM   #2126
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Such rankings are ridiculous anyway. They only compare world cities, but on a national or regional level, the "most livable" cities are often affluent suburbs.
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Old September 1st, 2011, 02:47 PM   #2127
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Such rankings are ridiculous anyway. They only compare world cities, but on a national or regional level, the "most livable" cities are often affluent suburbs.
The whole concept is ridiculous because it is so subjective. How do you compare the value of completely different things like transport and culture? One person would rather live somewhere where they can afford a house with a garden, where they can drive easily to work etc and not give two hoots about metropolitan type culture, while another would be happy with a small flat and being crammed into an underground train in exchange for "culture".

This reminds me of some stupid ranked list of best cities in the world to visit a few years ago that ranked Kabul one place above Bath, England.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 08:57 PM   #2128
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Here's a video I made of Highway 402 and the Bluewater Bridge in Sarnia, Ontario. The grass median in the middle of the freeway is now completely gone.




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Old September 4th, 2011, 08:45 AM   #2129
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Vancouver roads and highways are a complete joke. It should be closer to zero with permanent traffic jams and taking forever to get anywhere. BC highways are trecherous with grades/curves/road surfaces that would be unacceptable in most parts of the world.
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Old September 27th, 2011, 05:27 AM   #2130
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Wow how pathetic is skyscraperpage? The last 2 pages of their highway" thread is just bickering over what constitutes a town in terms of population. What an absolute joke of a website.
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Old September 27th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #2131
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Well, this is Skyscrapercity. But off-topic discussions happen everywhere.
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Old September 27th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #2132
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Old September 28th, 2011, 01:33 AM   #2133
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Vancouver roads and highways are a complete joke. It should be closer to zero with permanent traffic jams and taking forever to get anywhere. BC highways are trecherous with grades/curves/road surfaces that would be unacceptable in most parts of the world.
For the Vancouver/Burnaby/New Westminster/Surrey/Coquitlam/Port Coquitlam/North Vancouver and West Vancouver region, what did you expect for traffic. It's just a matter of finding alternate routes and knowing WHERE the traffic drops off. I used to live in N. Vancouver (I really miss my apartment there. North Van beats Kamloops hands down. ) and quickly learned to avoid travel in rush hour if it could be avoided IF I needed to drive. Otherwise, I made like the Dutch and pedaled, irregardless of weather. If I knew where you lived in Vancouver, maybe I could help you out in avoiding the worst of the traffic.

As for the rest of the Province, you'd have to give examples of Sub-standard grades/curves. I know that "Snowshed Hill" on the Coq is one grade that is steeper than posted. (About 12% instead of the posted 8%)
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Old September 29th, 2011, 09:32 AM   #2134
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For the Vancouver/Burnaby/New Westminster/Surrey/Coquitlam/Port Coquitlam/North Vancouver and West Vancouver region, what did you expect for traffic. It's just a matter of finding alternate routes and knowing WHERE the traffic drops off. I used to live in N. Vancouver (I really miss my apartment there. North Van beats Kamloops hands down. ) and quickly learned to avoid travel in rush hour if it could be avoided IF I needed to drive. Otherwise, I made like the Dutch and pedaled, irregardless of weather. If I knew where you lived in Vancouver, maybe I could help you out in avoiding the worst of the traffic.

I walk to work, so its not a problem for me. If I were to have to drive, I would make sure to live in the suburbs and work in the suburbs.
I only drive during off-peak hours, and it is still horrible. I know plenty of shortcuts; however, you need to eventually get onto a main road to go anywhere further.
Most people don't chose their working hours, its 9-5.


As for the rest of the Province, you'd have to give examples of Sub-standard grades/curves. I know that "Snowshed Hill" on the Coq is one grade that is steeper than posted. (About 12% instead of the posted 8%)[/QUOTE]


Off the top of my head?
1. Whole Coquihalla (improper road surface sinks and causes hydroplaning when wet, really steep grades)
2. Highway 99 near Lilloet (steep grades, curves, suddenly switches to gravel in random sections)
3. Highway 1 Eastbound after Golden (can't go over 30 on the main highway due to curves and steep section)
4. Highway 1 at Kamloops is very steep.
I can imagine what surprises smaller roads hold if major highways can't be properly maintained/built.

Compare this with Calgary, where I ended up being "stuck" in rush hour. Basically lost about 6 minutes (going 60 instead of 110) for a short while.
The road to nowhere that I took (from Calgary to Drumheller) was freshly paved in most sections and had an almost perfect road surface.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 05:15 PM   #2135
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Hwy 5 (Coquihalla Hwy): I travel the section of the "Coke" between Kamloops and Merritt on a weekly basis and don't find it too bad. There is a spot just after the Logan Lake interchange that needs to be repaved (about 200m total). From the Helmer Lake interchange to the commercial vehicle brake check just north of Merritt has recently been re-paved in both directions. The pavement is worn, but still in decent repair.

From Merritt to hope, I don't really know as haven't traveled that section recently, beyond the imfamous "Snowshed Hill", which is about 12% and not the 8% as posted. The curve is also cambered the wrong way, leading to truck rollovers.

Hwy 99: The section of 99 you mention was originally constructed as a logging road (long before laws prohibited logging roads from crossing between watersheds). Over the years, it was upgraded to the current highway it is now. Today, it's still slowly being upgraded, with the one lane bridges being replaced, much to my disappointment. Yes, the grades are steep, but the only solution, would be to either completely re-route the highway, or build extensive tunnels. both are cost prohibitive for a route with such low traffic volumes.

Hwy [email protected]: The section of highway is currently undergoing massive reconstruction to eliminate the winding "Goat Trail" ( as it's called by locals and truckers). When complete, the route will be 4 lanes with an 80 km/h limit. Routing of part of the project has been narrowed down to two choices. A 3 to 3.5 km long tunnel, or a route along the mountain, that has bridges and avalanche galleries.

Hwy 1 @Kamloops: I think it is a bit steep. 9% over the maximum allowable 8%, but am not certain. It was built in the 60s as a bypass and was originally undivided 4 lane. I find that congestion is more of an issue, than the grade.
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Old September 29th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #2136
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Here's the link to the Kicking Horse Canyon Project Zivan:

http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/kickinghorse/index.htm

Alberta can hardly compare to BC. They have room to expand capacity on their highways and geography isn't so much of an issue either, which makes for much lower construction costs. BC is a challenge due to geography, which makes expanding highway capacity an issue. BC HWY 5 from Heffely Creek to Barrierre needs to be 4 laned, but highly doubt that will happen due to terrain, let alone cost.

As for the smaller (local) roads, it depends on where you are. Some are in great shape, while others are the complete opposite. The Forest Service needs to put a lot more money into their road network. Gravel roads in Siberia are in better shape.
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Old November 15th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #2137
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Old November 15th, 2011, 12:54 AM   #2138
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Nice! Did you make that trip yourself?
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Old November 15th, 2011, 01:04 AM   #2139
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Unfortunately no but I will one day...sceneries in North America are the most beautiful on Earth, imho.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 05:03 PM   #2140
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